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while i agree that chandra had his mind wiped he did still hav some of the research papers on coyote sands. so wouldnt he still of known somthing about the ordeal. and what was the point of mohinder constantly getting caught and escaping its like he would get caught then you wouldnt see him for a bit then hed get caught again then you wouldnt see him then hed get out again only to be getting pumped full of tazers AGAIN!

@gotay…I think part of the reason they keep killing off Peter/Hiro’s love interest is to add to there persona on the show. Like Peter is a “dreamy eyed, love sick puppy” Hiro is a “Looking for that special someone” type. Just my opinion, but that is what it seems like to me. I agree…Pete told Simone, “I’ve loved you since I first set eyes on you” and Kaitlin, “I dont care WHO I was before, I want to be here with you now” WTF? Wish I could find a man that falls head over heels like these guys..! And fine too…? SHOOT… That is my dream man!

@ nathan
Good point about the papers on Coyote Sands. I’ve literally JUST thought, tho, as a far-out theory… maybe Chandra’s memories were selectively erased, and he was allowed to keep enough of his research to carry on ‘re-searching’ for specials – just in case he might be of further use in some way in the future? What do you reckon?
LOL about Mohinder,,, aka ‘The Prisoner’

@ gotay78
While I can accept that Nathan was in a pitiful state which helped drive his family away, I can’t believe that his wife (ex-wife? I can’t remember if they actually divorced, or just separated) wouldn’t have been concerned enough to find out if the father of their kids was ok, especially after he had been shot, and again after ‘miraculously’ recovering/ reviving. Especially since he had obviously cleaned up his act – he was a senator again. She MUST have seen/ heard/ read some news of it somewhere. So from then until now… WHERE SHE AT? lol! Forget Tracy – Heidi is the original Ice Queen LOL!

I think you’re right tho, they’ll focus more on his fam, especially how he’s going to relate to them since ‘he is no longer himself’… Hmmm, I want to see how he reacts when he realises his kid(s) have a power… Will he instinctively raise his Knife Finger?

@ gotay78
I was just about to agree with you that FP should have teleported him away/ stopped time and told Nathan, but then I realised that since Present Peter was, er… present, he would have been unaffected (at least by stopping time) and it could have caused some kind of rift if the two versions met… if FP and Nathan teleported away, there is a slim chance that PP could try to follow and actually find them. Even if he had dealt with PP first (body inserting him into Jesse), and then teleported Nathan away to deal with or talk to him – all while stopping time (similar to the level of control over abilities he had in FYG when he rescued Future Hiro and Ando), once gone time would have resumed… and two people would have appeared to have disappeared into thin air! I wonder how THAT future would have turned out lol!

Maybe the existence of these people/ powers being revealed in some way WAS inevitable? And FP truly thought that it was the only way to stop it from happening? Coz, since PP was by Nathan’s side ever since the events at the Vault, he couldn’t have teleported back that far (risk of rift), and since Nathan was NEEDED to get to PP at the Vault in the first place to convince him that he was on the wrong side (or the Virus would have been released), FP couldn’t alter anything BEFORE the Vault either.

I think if nothing else, he could have tried Telepathy to make Nate say something different – or even make him excuse himself to go for a piss or something lol… THEN kidnap him when he’s off stage!

@Batman….NAPTOWN. Just what I wanted, someone tall, dark, & who fly’s around in the night sky rescuing people & saving the world from the villains trying to destroy it!
Ok… the Future Peter & Present Peter/ Future Claire & Present Claire is just confusing. The deal with Heidi & the kids, I agree she would have seen that he was in Politics again, and clean. So why hasnt she came around? I think that Angela’s dream power has evolved into some type of mind control or persuasion. We discussed this last summer a lot. But does anyone remember when Heidi & Angela was standing outside the hospital room when Nathan was still burned, and Angela was telling Heidi to basically go away… that Nathan needed his privacy & all that…well Angela was continuously rubbing Heidi’s arm, and touching her while she was telling her to leave. Heidi never really said anything, no..”I’m his WIFE” or “He’s the father of my children, & he stayed by my side during my injury” etc. So I do think that she persuaded or influenced Heidi. But that was S2, so why havent they touched more onto Angela’s other ability if that is true?? But we’ve seen Angela get away with a lot of crazy sh*t, so I think she does have some “Phase 2″ of her ability…? What ya think?

@Batman… where are u?

sorry Burlman is my alter ego. Im in richmond

ive been rewatching season three and can someone please clarify this for me. so maury parkman was putting images of linderman into nathans head after he was shot. yet maury was locked up in level 5 until ep 2. did the writers just screw up there or what?

@ Karinboutheroes
Check out my comment above: sk74 06.13.09 at 11:19 am
And I noticed her rubbing Heidi’s arm or touching her shoulder or something too. If I remember correctly, throughout at least the earlier seasons she has done something like this a few times, i.e. putting her hands on someone’s shoulders etc while trying to suggest or persuade them to do/ not do something. The only exception is when she suggested that Arthur let her go, but all of that took place in her mind anyway… hope I ain’t confusing ya! (I think I remember you saying that you’re waiting for the DVD to rewatch it)

@ nathan
Well spotted! Damn, that’s gotta be a mistake if I ever saw one!

@sk…YEAH…well back when S2 was going on, and that scene between Heidi & Ang happened, I was stating my same opinion on these sites and people were CALLING ME CRAZY and practically going off on me for having that opinion…nice to see someone other than me is CRAZY too! I dont think it’s far-fetched to think that her premonition could turn to persuasion..! As far as the Maury thing, I do believe it is far-fetched to think he could control him from that far away… but who knows.? On one hand I believe it, but on the other hand the writers leave so many holes in the story it’s hard to tell.

@Karin, good pointing out of Maury locking Molly in her own mind and coming to her from so far away…this is what made Maury one of the strongest character because if he can control you, it doesn’t matter what ability you have to a degree…Also, was Maury willingly helping an incapacitated Arthur to get what he needed or was Arthur using Charles Deveaux’s persuasion ability which I believe he no doubt stole and why Charles was sick? If you look at Season 2, it seems many in the company where divided from Linderman being Adam’s apprentice, to Arthur and his group, Bob and Elle, Angela and her group and the doctor that was in hiding Adam/Peter went to look for and ended up killing…well, hopefully they will give us more than we can bargain for next season!

@ Karin
Hey, us Crazies have to stick together… it’s a normal world out there lol!

I can kinda believe that Angela might have some sort of Suggestion aspect to her power – along with Precog Dreaming as another aspect – in the same way that I can accept Matt’s evolving powers i.e. Telepathy (receiving/ transmitting thoughts) is one aspect, Suggestion/ Mind Control (imposing your will onto others to some degree) is another aspect, Precognition (Matt expresses it thru painting, Angela accesses it thru dreams) is another aspect, Mental Manipulation (altering the mind or memories) is yet another. But I couldn’t accept it if they said that one power has evolved into another one.

As for Maury… I think the reason that he was able to affect Molly at such a great distance is coz she was using her ability to find him. Since Clairvoyance is a mental ability, to find people she has to kinda connect her mind to the astral plane – think of a dimension where all thoughts are connected, for lack of a better explanation. Anyway, Maury being as powerful as he is, was able to sense when she was looking for him and could connect with her mind and take over, ultimately trapping her conciousness within her own mind (coma). In fact, she hads been having nightmares because of him BEFORE Matt ever asked her to look for him, so maybe he could sense her anyway?

But basically, I’ve no doubt that Maury might be powerful enough to affect minds from great distances… but the question remains: Why would he manipulate Nathan with visions of Linderman while he was still locked in Level 5, when Arthur hadn’t yet recruited him to do that very job? It makes no sense… and I seriously doubt that Arthur ‘reached out’ to Maury before the escape, or that the whole thing was Maury’s idea.

Hey, I just thought… maybe your name should be “Krazyboutheroes” then LOL!!!

Just thinking about Charles sickness… I don’t know if he’d fall sick just by Arthur stealing his power. I mean, Maya and Peter didn’t get sick, and Hiro’s current problems strike me as more likely to have something to do with Baby Matt.

Plus, it’s highly likely that Charles still had some power left in him… maybe even after he died? (His ‘dream sequence’ talk with Peter… “Invisibility? I always thought that’d be a good one to have…”). Was Peter visiting him, or the other way around? I mean, Peter did lose conciousness, and Charles being a telepath could access his mind. And yeah, I know Charles was already dead… PHYSICALLY. As a telepath, his realm is the mind… I’m sure I heard somewhere that a telepath never truly dies, or something…

Maybe Charles’ sickness has more to do with the Shanti Virus or something?

@ Karinboutheroes aka Krazy
Don’t worry, I won’t tell… but I think you just did LOL! (Nice name tho, I like the spelling – it’s different! )

About Maury again (if he was still alive, his ears would be burning right now), the main problem I have with that scenario is that I thought Arthur was believed to be dead by EVERYONE (including Angela, Linderman, and of course, Maury). Let’s face it, he must have figured out that it was Linderman that healed Angela’s mind, which caused her to poison him and leave him in such a state. So straightaway he couldn’t trust his wife (of, what… 40 years?) or his ‘best buddy’, or whatever Linderman was to him apart from his client. I don’t think he would have ltrusted ANYONE, let alone Maury, with knowledge that he was alive unless he was good and ready. So I don’t reckon that Maury knew Arthur was alive when he was in Level 5, and I can’t believe that he contacted Arthur rather than the other way around.

Arthur was too weak at that time to have used his power across such a distance to contact Maury IMO, so I’m ruling out the possibility of HIM directing Maury on what to do while in Level 5. Plus, niether Maury OR Arthur knew about the breakout that was going to happen, so it doesn’t ring true to me that they would start making such elaborate plans when it seemed as if Maury was locked away for life.

And we’re forgetting the simple fact that if Maury could use his power to make plans with Arthur across town, then he could mind-control his way out of his cell, Level 5 AND the whole Primatech facility in an instant! Level 5 was built to contain and neutralize these people and abilities.

So, I think we can safely say that the whole thing is a definite PLOTHOLE! The only other one would be, HOW did Maury get recruited (since at the time he didn’t know Arthur was still alive, and Arthur wasn’t strong enough to send a mind-message across God-knows-how-far)?

And finally (!), I think the whole Linderman thing was to get Nathan back into a political seat of power, which is what the real Linderman in S1 was trying to manipulate anyway, so him being used to trick Nathan makes sense. Also, since Nathan healed, Linderman was the perfect conclusion to get Nathan to jump to, if you know what I mean. Finally, maybe a bit of revenge on Arthur’s part for being betrayed by Linderman? And of course, with the real Linderman being dead, there’s no chance of him popping up at the wrong moment or saying “Nathan, I never suggested that…”

@ Gotay… I am SOOO Glad you brought that up.. I know exactly what you are talking about, I feel the same way. I think he may be able to do something like talk to peoples bodies. (I dont know how else to put it) but the human body is refered to as a “machine” & we do put out small electrical charges our brains put out electrical neurons…? Could it be that Micah can communicate with the human machine? AWESOME CATCH GOTAY

sk…I dont think it’s so much of activating that Micah was POSSIBLY doing, but maybe sizing up/or communicating with the human machine?:

@ Karinboutheroes
I guess it’s possible in some way (like you said, the body and neurons, etc. and electrical pulses and all that)… It all depends on how Micah’s ability actually works, really. If he communicates by manipulating electrical pulses in any system, then there we go. That does seem to make sense to me tho. After all, binary code is basically either a pulse or no-pulse to signify a 1 or 0… hmmm, you could be onto something there!

@F.D., good theory, but also don’t forget as we’ve seen with Hiro, Arthur doesn’t truly take your ability and you lose it otherwise not even baby touch and go Matt would be able re-awaken Hiro’s power! I still stand by my original theory which is Arthur siphons all the energy and surpresses the nodes containing the ability…Hiro still has his ability but has to work much harder to use it and they confirmed he will get Time Travel back next season proving my point further…they even said when Peter 1st lost his ability “it won’t be easy for him to GET THEM BACK” which meant all he’s gone through has made him stronger and more level headed when he gets them back to a degree…I think he has every power he’s taken since he injected himself with the formula and doesn’t know how to access them like Season 1, which is where I would want Claude to re-appear and make me give a standing ovation from my couch!! LOL
They have more than enough material for the two more seasons and I just hope Samson, Monica and Claude find their way back to the show…also, I mentioned how effed up it is they killed Micah’s parents, now that I think about it, they just killed off both of Claire’s biological parents also which sucks…oh well, on to the next season and I can’t wait!!

maybe claire will be kidnapped by the carnival and have to work there as a freak and then the new company goes after her.

@Ash… Well Arthur was sick, but then he “ATE” Adam, and gained his healing ability. But during the eclipse Arthur did loose his ablity just like everyone else did. So he did get sick.
Maybe she will be kidnapped, but I hope not. From what I’ve heard, Claire will be in college in this coming season.

This whole saga with the loss and gaining of powers through the eclipse and through use of the formula almost ruined the show for me. I believe the reason they did it was to demonstrate that a hero is defined not by his powers but by his character, which is an interesting theme. However, I think the devices they used to show this stretched believability even for a fictional show, hence all the confusion over the eclipse. It also spoiled the show because it dispelled the idea that people who had powers were in some way special which was the original premise of the show. Moving on…

I have really had my fill of Hiro. He was an amusing character in season 1 in season 2 he was not so great but central to the storyline, in season 3 he has become repetitive and irritating. Remember his season 1 mantra “save the cheerleader save the world” Well season 3 was “Find baby Matt Parkman”. He reminds me of a wind up toy. You point him in the right direction, wind him up, give him a simple line to say and off he goes! I really can’t understand all the fuss about this guy. I will say in his favour though he is brave and noble and this new storyline with time freeze headaches is shaping up well. Just hope they don’t spoil it. Speaking of spoiling it…

I think the end of season 3 with Sylar becoming Nathan was a stroke of genious. This opens up so many brilliant possibilities for season 4. For me this twist saved the show as I was not intending to continue tuning in due to the sub standard and sloppy story writing of the show prior to the last few episodes. I think Nathan will undergo a journey similar to Peter’s in season one where he knows something is happening to him physically but doesn’t know what. Whenever he his emotions become intense one of Sylar’s powers will manifest itself but like Peter he will not be able to control this ability and therefore, will be confused, he may even have flashbacks to his life as Sylar and start to display dark and ruthless tendencies. This ruthlessness will cause the meteoric rise of his political career thus ironically fulfilling Sylar’s original ambition.The climax to the show will be Sylar coming into the full knowledge of who he really is. This will lead to either an internal showdown between Sylar and Nathan or a mother of all battles with the other special abilities people. Anyone feeling me on this storyline???

sk74 as the other blogger pointed out yes Angela did say they wiped, bribed and bought their way to secrecy following the disastrous science “experiment” at Coyote Sands. So I hold my hands up and say you were right however, STOP THE PRESS! Let’s take a closer look. We discover Mohindar’s father who has been running around trying to find ONE person to validate his theory on the next stage of evolution actually took part in an experiment where there was a veritable orgy of such people. This is major, and deserves a full and proper explanantion as to why he seems to have forgotten about this many years on. something like a CIA esque scene, with an intimidating looking company man walking slowly into the room towards Dr Suresh, and placing his hand over his brow (The Haitian style) while Dr Suresh screams No, NOOOOOO! Instead we get a glib 5 second line from Angela. Personally I still think that the writers made a Boo Boo and at best quickly wrote that line in to cover their arses or at worst completely forgot about it and got lucky with that catch all line.

One last point (I know there have been too many already), is the shows laughable representation of Africa. I’ll explain. The US is the centre ground for the show and as in most films/TV shows is shown as the social, economic and political leader of the globe, no surprises there. Japan is depicted, through the Nokamura company, as a centre of corporate excellence. India through the Mohindars and their University, is shown as a place of learning and culture. What do we get for Africa… A guy in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere who permanently wears a Universal T-shirt, is glued to his IPOD and who eats animal dung in order to enter the spirit world. I mean c’mon guys do people still harbour such ignorant views! Let’s just explore the anomalies in this scenario. Number one people all over the world these days tend to live in towns and cities. Number two, if this guy lives in the middle of nowhere how the hell does he charge his IPOD or even obtain one in the first place, never mind download new songs. I don’t know about you but I didn’t see a computer or an internet cafe anywhere. Furthermore, why would an African Shaman (which is what I presume he is meant to be) even want an IPOD? What’s he lstening to, WHALE MUSIC??? And then there’s the whole Universal T-shirt wearing thing. There was even a scene when he turned up at Isaac Mendez’s flat during the voiceover at the end of the show wearing the same T-shirt. In fact even when he turns up to help Matt Parkman escape during the Guantanemo Bay scenes (orange suits and all that) he is wearing the same T-shirt, I mean what’s with that??? To me it seems as though the show is saying that Africa has no civilisation save a few vestiges of Western gadgetry and clothing which have somehow found their way into the hands of these backwards people who cherish them so much that they can’t bear to take them off.

Phewee! That’s today’s rant over, here’s hoping season four gets back to what season one was, a well written and engaging show.

@ Ade 06.22.09 at 5:55 pm
Some very good points, my friend! I agree with your first point, namely that I think that part of the whole theme was ‘what makes a hero?’. Peter once again embodies this whole concept, especially when he goes with Nathan to find The Haitian… “I want to know how to be a hero without my powers”. But IDK if the idea was dispelled (at least not for me) that people with abilities were special… to me the original premise of the show still holds, and that is ‘ordinary people with extraordinary abilities’, and how they – and the normal people around them – handle/ deal with/ adapt to them. Even the idea of giving Ando and Mohinder (ordinary people) their extraordinary abilities stays true to that concept… (although Ando I have gotten used to, Mohinder can take a running jump into space though for all I care – unless he wises up and becomes a better character lol!). I understand the point you are making tho.

LOL @ Hiro the wind-up toy! I guess this is what his character is like, he gets bored unless he has a mission, and he fully believes in Fate and Destiny (especially the latter). I guess when Destiny calls, Hiro hears and comes running – away he goes, look at that giant clockwork key turn lol!

Sylar/ Nathan a stroke of genius? You’ve echoed my exact words at the beginning of that paragraph! I won’t even comment on what you said, let’s just say that you must be reading my mind like Matt Parkman Sr. I’m feeling what you were saying about what could happen… some good speculation regarding the meteoric rise of his career.

True, about Chandra and Coyote Sands and all. Maybe they’ll expand on Angela’s one-liner at a later date? I guess they COULD have done a quick b&w flashback while she was saying it to SHOW that he was mindwiped, but oh well…

Finally, the whole reason I replied to your post… LMAO @ your Africa paragraph!!!!!!!! It’s true! It looked more like Matt was in the Australian outback than in Africa! I HAVE to quote…
“What do we get for Africa… A guy in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere who permanently wears a Universal T-shirt, is glued to his IPOD and who eats animal dung in order to enter the spirit world. I mean c’mon guys do people still harbour such ignorant views!”

OMG, I’m in tears again!
Although I thought that he had an old-fashioned Walkman (the type you’d have to get Hiro to travel back in time for, it’s so old) rather than an IPod… but still, it’s hella funny! I wondered at the time where he gets the batteries for it, the nearest shop didn’t seem to be very local!
The music… Hey, for all we know it COULD be whale music! It must be something like those relaxation/ hypnotherapy tapes and CD’s, some type of music or frequency that is supposed to affect or open up the mind, which (in the context of the show) enables the SpiritWalk to occur. Either that, or it could be Britney Spears for real – Usutu seemed to be a fan of hers (God knows why…). Let’s face it: if someone made me listen to Britney Spears in the baking hot sun, dung paste or not, I’d want my mind to escape to the future too (I hope you’re not a Britney fan LOL!)
But the T-shirt thing… If you remember, Arthur killed him (chopped his head off, no less) so when he appeared to Parkman after that, he always appeared in the clothes that he died in. This is quite common in a lot of ‘ghost stories’ I think.

(Still LMAO… Damn, that’s classic!)

Gotay 78

I’m afraid that was a “whallop of a post” but I don’t get on here very often so when I do there has to be an outpouring!

On Ando and Hiro wasn’t there an episode in the future where Hiro was tasered to death by Ando? If he can cheat death maybe Ando can too?

On Peter I hope he his powers were merely suppressed and that he regains them, as I don’t like this idea that powers can be lost and found. They’re meant to be the culmination of thousands of years of evolution, and as such, an inalienable part of a person’s DNA.

If Peter does develop a new interest I hope he treats her better than the last two. He got Simone shot after playing magic tricks on Isaac Mendez and dumped Caitlin in the future never to mention her again.

I think you make a good call on the similarities between Peter’s and Hiro’s powers though.

sk74

When I said that later episodes dispelled the idea that people with abilities were special, I was talking purely in the evolutionary sense. The show implied that they were special because natural selection had chosen them to be the early light bearers with these powers. The next phase of evolution. But when they introduced the formula and eclipse storylines suddenly every man and his dog had powers or was losing them, switching them etc etc. Other than that I agree with what you said re. the show being about ordinary people with extraordinary abilities and how they use their powers being the moral of the story.

I’m glad you liked the Africa paragraph. Actually your description of Africa like the Australian outback summed it up better than mine did (lol!). And no I’m not into Britney so blast away kid!!!

Good spot on the headphones not being an ipod but a cassette walkman. But as you astutely pointed out he would still have to buy batteries and I saw no evidence of a “drugstore” anywhere. Sadly this also rules out the possibility of the music being Britney as she wasn’t born when they were using cassette players. Which means he was probably listeneing to something like the Osmonds or the Mamas and the Pappas or maybe it was the Carpenters AAAAARRRRRGGHH!!!
Again good spot on the Universal T-shirt thing. Yes ’tis true that ghosts do not change their clothes… But humans do, and even before this guy died all he ever seemed to wear was that T-shirt. I mean if he enjoyed his trip to Universal studios so much where are the over-priced mid-ride photos that they always flog you as soon as you get off. You know, those embarrassing ones where you’re screaming your head off open mouthed. Or the psuedo-authentic black and white photos of him and his family in Billy-the-Kid get up??? Nowhere to be found. And in case anyone is under the illusion that this T-shirt thing is just a coincidence think again my friend! No prop or piece of clothing in a primetime TV show (especially an item which advertises) is ever there by accident, they are ALWAYS very carefully thought through. In fact they pay people hundreds of thousands dollars a year to very carefully put together the actors’ on screen wardrobes (don’t take my word for it just watch the heores behind the scenes after show) so please, can anyone tell me WHY he’s wearing a UNIVERSAL T-SHIRT!

Andy

Fairplay to you, the writers may fill in the Dr Chandra plot line in an episode(s) to come. And if they do then I will take my hat off to you. To be honest because his story is so thinly spread over the whole three seasons my memory is a bit hazy on that one. However, I think it’s fair to say that what we have at the moment is a MAJOR plot twist with insufficient story telling to accompany it. So shall we agree to say the Jury’s out on this one???

@ sk74…

… or should I say Holmes? Brilliant piece of detective work there! That must be it. Why else would they have him walking around in that T-shirt never changing it even once. And as I remember it they started plugging Star Trek heavily towards the end of the Heroes series. Come to think of it this could also be the thinking for placing Sylar in Nathan’s body. First, to avoid future conflicts in filming schedules. Think about it, every time there’s a new Star Trek movie Sylar just shapeshifts into Nathan allowing Mr Q to go off to fight intergalactic villains for a while. And second, maybe Universal just didn’t like the idea of Spok who in Star Trek is essentially a goodie running round on TV chopping the tops of peoples’ off? Let’s face it the cinema going public is easily confused (myself included).

I agree that there definitely should be some kind repercussions to injecting people with synthetic powers. Life shows us that nature is the best creator. Even in athletics there are side effects to taking a few measely steroids to run 0.000000000000000001 seconds faster, never mind a drug that allows someone to fly!!!

What really bugs me about the whole synthetic storyline is the speed with which they were able to come up with it. Let’s remember this series is set in the present not future. In the real world it took hundreds of years to get to the stage where we could sew an arm back on. These guys learned how to give people the power to turn into ice etc. etc. overnight. Yeah I know that it’s a fictional show but even fiction has to have its roots in some kind reality no matter how tiny.

I’m pretty sure I’ll get lots of people disagreeing with that last point!!!

Well, technically, isn’t NBC owned by Universal? I mean, at least, I know the DVDs are produced by Universal, and I seem to recall reading that Universal owned NBC some time ago.

Also, the shirt plays into the whole “everyone is connected” idea, that the show takes place in all parts of the world, and rather than centering on one country or people, the story is “universal”, and reaches out to everyone. This message wouldn’t have come across if the character wearing it didn’t live in an area other than one we haven’t seen already on the show – which could be one reason they chose Africa.

I do agree with Ade, though, in that Africa seems VERY primitive compared to the other societies on the show. I suppose you could argue that Africa could be a center of spiritualism, with the whole spirit walk and all. However, I find the show’s depiction of India to be more spiritualistic than what we’ve seen, thusfar of Africa.

As for the idea that synthetic abilities shouldn’t evolve or expand – could it be possible that the original ability Tracy was injected with was control over water, and she just learned to manifest it, originally, as ice? That seems to be how abilities work, in general, regardless of if they’re natural or synthetic (on science fiction and fantasy as a whole, and not just this show) – if the owner of the ability doesn’t know that they have an ability, then it takes longer for them to reach their potential.

Think Superman – he begins his life as Clark Kent, and believes he is just strong, fast, and indestructible. At the start of the comics, he couldn’t even fly – he could just leap long distances. As time progressed, writers gave him more and more abilities, until he became the character we all know him as now. He didn’t start off knowing his full potential when he first learned he had abilities, it was a gradual process.

Also, Captain Atom (the basis for the Watchmen’s Dr. Manhattan) was originally a normal human who was enhanced with an ability later on in his life. He originally was able to manipulate energy, in a similar fashion to Dr. Manhattan. However, he eventually develops the ability to timetravel, which was not something he initially was able to do.

I don’t see the point in limiting how far a character can progress with an ability based on if theirs is synthetic or not. However, I’m sure there will be a drawback in the future (possibly eventual cancer? or some other disease?) which will plague the synthetic characters. I don’t think it’s anything that needs to be brought up just yet.