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I think it is obvious what is going to happen in the fourth season. The future shown in season 1 with Nathan being dead in the post apocalyptic NY and Sylar being the president in Nathans form. That is exactly what this season is leading to imo.
HOPE: dang a little harsh dont ya think, i dont think its that bad. i mean it might be obvious but i dont think, people sit around waiting for it to get better all the time.
Once again im dissapointed, are the writers getting paid for this shit, where im from you not allowed to work drunk, dont think i enjoyed one episode of this season, when the F**k is peter going to get his powers back, the series was much better then. im not watching anymore, its not worth it, if anyone knows about peter becoming cool again let me know
i like peter he and sylar are my favorites
i liked how perter was when he had all of da power and stuff, it seemed more interresting then.
@Steve Woos 05.01.09 at 10:03 pm
“Once again im dissapointed, are the writers getting paid for this shit, where im from you not allowed to work drunk, dont think i enjoyed one episode of this season, when the F**k is peter going to get his powers back, the series was much better then. im not watching anymore, its not worth it, if anyone knows about peter becoming cool again let me know”
Bro, you’re obviously not a true Heroes fan, you only watch the program for ONE CHARACTER, which is Peter. Maybe you and all the fans who CONSTANTLY complain about Peter not having his full powers/ not having enough screen time/ not having a good storyline/ not having WHATEVER… maybe y’all should just make a compilation of every scene that Peter has been in (with his full EM, of course) and watch that DVD, nothing else. EVER. It’s the only way all of you will ever be happy.
Question: for all you whingers who say that Peter/ the series was BETTER before Peter lost his EM, hands up all of those that DIDN’T complain about season 2? Or the ones that liked Villains before Arthur stole Pete’s abilities? Hmmm…
My point? You can’t please everyone all the time. Pete hasn’t got his original EM – get over it. A lot of you weren’t happy with the series before he lost his EM (due to poor writing/ bad plot/ plotholes/ boring story/ not enough powers or fights/ too many new characters/ hated characters/ or simply not enuf Peter, etc etc ETC) so stop lying.
I know that was harsh, but for fuck’s sake, I’m sick of hearing the one complaint rehashed so many times! The show is about HEROES, not Peter Petrelli and His Amazing Friends. Sort your collective heads out.
I think that they should write a spin off series, simply called ‘Peter’. The only characters would be a clone of Peter Petrelli complete with full EM, and a clone of Sylar. The entire series would take place in one single room, like an Xmen danger room. All that would happen each week is that the two characters beat the crap out of each other using different powers, nothing else. No plot, no story, no other supporting characters. Just an inane, senseless, ability-fuelled slugfest each and every episode. Oh, and most of the scenes would be seen thru Sylar’s eyes, so all you would see is Peter 90% of the time. How does THAT sound to you Peter fans?
The sad thing is, I know that some of you out there are actually warming to this idea as you read it.
Your wrong i am a true heroes fan, but you are right about one thing its not all about Peter. I like a lot off other Characters such as Hiro & ando they make me laugh, Sylar is a cool mean mother fucker, Basically i liked all the main core characters but i did like it more when peter had his powers, he was always the equal of sylar. There battles where awesome, but we never got to see a full on battle like we all wanted. The simple fact is sylar is unstoppable unless peter gets his powers back. And what about caitlin the Irish girl peter met and deserted, i thought that was his love interest in the series but now after only a short time he has completely forgot her.
I think the show has become like the 3rd X-men film, they are just too interested in cramming in as many new powered characters as they can, instead of concentrating on the main characters stories.
I just hope the new series is better.
Steve Woos 05.02.09 at 11:25 am
Hey, I liked the original Peter too, but he was seriously too naive (read ‘dumb’). He had all of these powers, but he never REALLY used them to the fullest – which amounted to us only seeing him use a few powers, or only rarely using them. I would rather see him as he is now – limited in power, but using his brain to apply that power to the situation. If abilities were currency, then the old Peter had ‘way too much money and not enouh sense’, know what I mean? And since ‘a fool and his money are soon departed’ (as evidenced by how easily Arthur tricked his most powerful son), we now have a more thoughtful Pete who isn’t blinded by naivety or ego. ‘Pauper Pete’ actually outsmarted Sylar (Prince Pete wouldn’t have) by thinking ahead, hence why he chose to take the Shapeshifting ability, (rather than TK, and go toe-to-toe).
Peter – and Hiro – ended up relying on their powers too much. At least Peter has learned from this and adapted, becoming a better character IMO. I just wish a lot of fans could see this and adapt along with him instead of pining for a character that was powerful, but thick as two planks! Peter posing as the Pres was a stroke of genius, and it proved that while he isn’t as powered-up as Sylar, he was more than a match for him in the end.
You say that “The simple fact is sylar is unstoppable unless peter gets his powers back.”
Well, he might be virtually indestructible/ unkillable, but it looks to me like Peter STOPPED him just fine, using the ‘retarded’ power he has and the ‘unretarded’ brain he discovered he possessed. And we’ve seen that fact occur.
I agree with the fact of saving nathan…it was the first thing i thought,to give him some of claire’s blood,but…!however,what matt did was WTF…i liked it…it was extraordinary even for the extraordinary things that happen in heroes!
TRACY RULES(EXCEPT FOR HIRO)!
for everybody going on about using claires blood. shut up.
i cant believe they used sylar for it, im my opinion the show wont be as good with out him.
umm any idea when will season 4 start?
cuz im kinda excited here. i liked the sylar nathan thing. havnt seen an intresting heroes episode like this in a long time =)
On heroes wiki it says heroes vol.5 starts in september 2009. I don’t know if it’s right, but I hope it is, I don’t want to wait more than 5 months to see heroes again. The thing is, if they had just revived Nathan with Claire’s blood, it would just be Nathan dying and coming back alive AGAIN and there wouldn’t be any plot twist and yes, people would start complaining about it. But I think the way they’ve revived Nathan is a really good, interesting idea! It makes you want to see what happens next season doesn’t it? Also, maybe the reason they didn’t use Claire’s blood to revive Nathan is because Angela saw Matt and ONLY Matt saving Nathan, so she was led to believe that she HAD to use Matt not Claire because she couldn’t mess around with the future. I can’t wait for season 4, and yes, I do dislike some story lines in Heroes, but there are more good points than bad and it will be interesting to see which theories everyones talking about will be right. =) xxx
I just really want to see what will become of Peter’s abilities. Assuming he does know how strategically pull an ability of choice from Sylar, don’t some of you guys think it’s kinda far-fetched even for Heroes. I hope he does have all of Sylar’s powers, but spends vol.5 trying to control and use them like he once could. It would be cool to see the multiple abilities start to randomnly act up, like for example he out-of-nowhere starts to use the ability to tell the truth while on a date, for example. Vol.4 peter has been the best and I want him to continue to grow as much as he did in s3 during vol.5
Many of you are right. On second thought, using Claire’s blood would be a repetition. Maybe this new thing with Sylar inside Nathan would have a long impact on season 4. Can’t wait!
PS: Plz keep this blog about Heroes and NOT about crap
@thepoopsmith
is not tracy nor barbara, they are both death. but there’s a triplet who i thinks is the one that appears on season 3’s finale
Hmm…doesn’t appear to be working for me for some reason.
ZRawr: Neither Tracy nor Babara are dead. Niki is.
If you check out heroes ODI, it says that Sylar will return but in a fight club kind of way. So that means it’ll kinda be the split personality kind of thing, I think. Anyways, http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/ <<<it says it there.
thye couldnot use claires blood because he was already dead hrg was not dead when he got claires blood
her power is regeneration dead things dont regenerate
does peter have all sylars abilites or just shape shiftiing? if he don t have them all i hope he can use multiple powers in volume 5.like he have to touch the person he want the power from and he will be able to keep it permanent.
Question.. what happend to molly ????
@ HeroesFTW – I think she’s with Mohinder’s mother in India…I read it somewhere
On Heroeswiki, they said that in the Second Coming, “Mohinder returns home after having sent Molly away to a safe location.”
Well, about Peter, his power is touching other person, this season3 volume 4 Perter was away from the light, his previous power that absorbing one was nice, I think somehow he can take again his power, but there should be a change, like he can absorbs only upto 4 or 5 abilities and if more than it will harm him.
Who will be the villian in season 4 volume 5, I hope to see Sylar again fully, there should be 3 or 4 villians more with powers like sylar, then it will be interesting, and creators of Heroes should show the rest of the abilities that Sylar has. I deeply miss one character of Season 1 that is Ted(the nuclear guy) he should not be killed.
i just knew they was going to show all nikki sister
anyone ever thought heros is a little simlar to the x-men this is just my thought
@ ymerli
i highly doubt HRG survived a gun shot to the eye; most likely he was dead. the same thing happened to Maya; in season 2, when powerless Sylar shot Maya, she died and then Mohinder injected her with claire’s blood and she came back to life. i see no reason why claire’s blood wouldn’t be able to work in this case. The writers probably have their reasons. besides i think the new story line the writers have put together is very intersting. i cant wait to see how the sylar/nathan thing works out in the end…
ok – a great ending episode…but there are some holes. It was lame indeed that they didn’t show the final fight scene. Peter, who can now shapeshift, could have just as easily played his brother long enough to talk the president out of funding the building 26 program, and they could have killed Sylar and been done with it. On Sylar – Sylar’s character dominates the show far too much – the show is really only about sylar right now..none of what the other characters do matter, and without him, there’s really no show, because there’s no one to fight. Right now, the only “villian” we have left is water woman, who frankly, makes a lame villain. However, a new season is a new season, and they could go any number of directions – just so long as its not all about sylar – AGAIN! On Hiro, his power at its peak was a total game breaker, there’s nothing you can do against hiro to beat him except surprise him or use the haitian, so that’s the obvious and somewhat lame reason they’ve taken his powers away and watered them down – which is also the same reason Peter has lost his powers…he was too powerful for any conflict except against other demigod’s like sylar…so here’s hoping they can bring it back…i dont think they can…but we shall see…..
Everyone is going on about clairs blood, anyone catch on that they could have used sylar’s blood too? Doesnt it have the same properties? I like the way the writers arent recycling the same ideas, even thought people think they know what will happen, must be psychic seen as the script probably hasnt been written yet.
Ps its really great people bitch about the program, anyone out there written a good tv series lately?
Didnt think so, if ya dont like it, dont watch it and shut up
Another thing, if somone pops clairs cherry will it grow back?
I Haven’t seen the final episode yet as I’m in the UK and the show doesn’t air until Monday.
I have to say though from the comments and spoilers, I personally think the blonde woman will Be Tracy, I mean sure people it will be Barbara but considering how abilities evolve e.g Claire couldn’t feel pain anymore, Sylar could take powers through empathy, So why couldn’t Tracy’s power evolve that she can absorb into water.
Also I think for Season 4, after about 2 or 3 episodes Sylar won’t feel right like something is missing and eventually he will be back.
BTW CLAIRE, SYLAR, HIRO AND TRACY FTW!!!!!!!
AGAIN EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM NOT USING CLAIRE’S BLOOD
They’ve dropped hints this whole season that Angela foresaw these events playing out exactly the way they did. She knew sylar would kill nathan. She knew Matt parkman would be the only one that could “save” nathan by preserving him in Sylar’s body. She didn’t tell anyone the details of her dream because she knew no one would understand and would try to change the future. She accepted the role she had to play in this, no matter how twisted.
I mean think about it. Let’s pretend they did the “common sense” thing and used Claire’s blood. Great job, except now Nathan has an entire country of people with abilities pissed off at him and ready to kill him for outing them to the government. Claire’s blood isn’t always going to be around to save him, but at least this way, he’s in an indestructible body. Oh, and Sylar is contained…not for long, but that’s the way the characters probably saw it when Angela and Noah did what they did.
Seriously people, there’s a legit reason for not using the blood, please talk about something else. If the writers really weren’t thinking about it, don’t you at least think Jack Coleman would have? His character was saved in the exact same way! Damn!
I think its time for Sylar to die and for a new turn of events to happen. This show is becoming redundant and without a really fresh story I can’t say it will last much longer
@ sk74
LOOL toooo funny. bt true tho. i think its about time people stopped complaining about peter’s ability. He was relying on his abilities too much. and like you said, he may not have been as powered as sylar, but he still stopped him. I think all people want to see is a good fight involving a lot of abilities. but even when peter had all his abilities, we still didnt see any good fights. apart from that, you pretty much said every thing.
@ q4norm
yes peter can now shapeshift and he could have gone to meet the president as nathan but remember when angela asked Matt parkman if he wouldnt do anything to keep his son in his life and he couldnt say anything. so thats another reason why peter couldnt do it. Angela wanted to keep peter as well as Nathan in her life no matter what it took.
@ nick
Angela didnt know Sylar would kill Nathan. all she knew was that Nathan was in trouble and Matt was supposed to save him. That was why when her and Matt found Nathan, she got soo emotional and started to weep over him. and then she told Matt she didnt understand it. because in her dreams, he was supposed to save him. meaning she didnt know he was going to die.
“all she knew was that Nathan was in trouble and Matt was supposed to save him.”
Exactly! Angela foresaw that MATT would save Nathan. Not Claire or Claire’s blood, Matt. Ergo, no use of the blood as Angela knows she can’t (or won’t) go against her dreams. That’s why they didn’t use it.
Also, there was no other way they could have both revived Nathan and killed Sylar. Peter shapeshifting into him? Well, maybe. But unless Peter becomes Nathan permanantly, Nathan’s still gone. And if Peter did stay as Nathan permanantly, how do you explain Peter going missing?
@ Hironnexus 05.07.09 at 5:48 pm
“I think its time for Sylar to die and for a new turn of events to happen. This show is becoming redundant and without a really fresh story I can’t say it will last much longer”
I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one mate. Redundant? It just got a new lease of life, imo (as long as the writers don’t waste the potential that they have created by introducing the ‘Sythan’ twist). Don’t the upcoming possibilities sound fresh enough for you?
Let’s see… They said that Claire’s character will have a new direction next season (and about time too! All she’s done for the last 3 seasons is whinge about how she wants to be normal). Considering what she said to Sylar – ” I will spend the rest of my life hunting you down”, or something like that… I would predict that when she realises that BioDad is really her sworn nemesis (future love???) she will become a much darker character, like Future Claire. Imagine Claire hunting Sylar, maybe while he is still in the form of Nathan! Not interesting, no?
We’ve seen the good and bad side of both Nathan and Sylar. I wonder how far this identity crisis will go… Will we see the predictable (Nathan the Good trying to keep control over Sylar the Bad) or will they switch it up (Nathan feels the evil trying to creep out, Sylar believes he’s the good one and tries to regain control from Nathan)? Remember, Gabriel tried to kill himself (rather than continue his quest for power and become the evil Sylar), and again when he thought he was The Lost Petrelli he tried to ‘do the right thing’, even saving Peter’s life by throwing him out of a window and breaking his fall – to get him away from Arthur. Now that he has been regressed to LONG before he became Sylar, would he still be as murderous, or would he be heroic? Will Sylar end up becoming President after all? And would he actually be a good guy? There are plenty of fresh possibilities here to explore with these two, even more so now that they share the same body, so to speak.
Peter… need I go into it? Oh, what the hell…! Will he get his powers back/ improved/ evolved… and when, how? How ape-shit will he go when he finds out the truth about his ‘brother’? (Repercussions for Sylar, Angela, Matt, Noah… watch out now!)
Since this new Company is built on a foundation of lies and deceit, how long before it all starts to crumble?
Unless I fell asleep for a whole season and missed something, these ideas seem fresh enough to me. At least give the new season a chance when it starts, rather than slate it when the old season has JUST finished. Those are my thoughts – and I didn’t even charge you a penny for them!
Peace.
@ changs 05.07.09 at 9:38 pm
Nice one, thanks mate!
@ nick
I see what you’re saying, but I really don’t think Angela saw all that since the beginning of the season. Remember, before she got everyone to meet at Coyote Sands, she didn’t have time to sleep and therefore dream, and she was lost because she didn’t know what they had to do NEXT. Sure, her early-season dreams featured Gabriel – so she knew he was important – but due to Future Peter causing butterfly effects, the future kept changing: she told FP these exact words herself. So, I would conclude that she hadn’t yet foreseen how all the events would lead to Nathan’s death. She wasn’t expecting it at all.
I don’t think Angela knew Nathan was going to be killed by Sylar, just that he was in deep trouble. Also, mabye it was her being absolutely distraught (understandably) about Nathan being dead combined with the fact her vision shows MATT saving Nathan and noone else, which made her not use Claire’s blood. Also, I am mega interested about the Sylar/Nathan plot twist, and I really hope they don’t just bring back Sylar in the first few episodes in a kind of, “well that was interesting for a moment…moving swiftly on…” kind of way. I defiently like this “fight club esq” thing they’re talking about sounds quite good. Also, Peter with no powers is completely boring…(unless he took all the powers from Sylar an not just one which I’m not sure about), because he character just lacks any interesting qualities. To be honest, Peter isn’t the brightest spark, and now he’s an almost POWERLESS not very bright spark. Also, they need to give Mohinder type characters better storylines, because if they kill of another main character, people will start complaining as to why THERE favourite character got killed whilst a completely usless character stays on. Also, I hope Claire stops whining about her life. Girl, you need to get over yourself and be interesting, which I am glad to see started happening at the endish part of the season almost. xxxx
Oh, sorry about some spelling mistakes, I kind of wrote it really quickly. xxx
To Emzy
Peter has been his most intellegent and leading than ever, he carefully has to choose who power he borrowed, when and why. He only got blindsided when Danko waited to snipe him, but heard him at the last minute via Matt’s ability. he can control his ability to touch and borrow to the point he doesn’t have to make skin contact or worry about accident touching someone like Rogue would have to do. Peter has come to rely on more on his actions to guide him instead of his abilities guiding him. If Peter ONLY too shapeshifting from Sylar, that means he can control what he takes, how cool would that be? In vol.4 Peter finally really let his feelings of distrust and anger out on Nathan and Angela. I liked how he called Nathan selfish, told his mother he’s sick of her lies and only saved her because she knows what’s gonna happen next. I think even with his current ability, they fear what Peter can/would do if he knew the truth about Nathan. Peter still outsmarted Sylar with only one ability. We all remember that Peter did beat Sylar’s ass in vol.3, so If he does have all’s Sylar’s abilities, especially the IA, he’s one to be reckoned with
@sk74 and changs
It’s not that I can prove my theory (as no one else can either until next season), but there’s several plot points that strengthen it:
1. Yes, Angela cried and got totally emotional…but she’s a mom, of course she would have, regardless as to what her dreams showed her. Angela often appears cold and uncaring because she’s seen a future of horrible terrible things she’s trying to prevent. It’s desensitized her for sure, but she’s by no means incapable of emotion. Assuming she saw nathan die in her dream (i believe she did), that wouldn’t have stopped her from wailing like crazy when she saw it for real. Put yourself in her shoes, you’d do the same thing. Just because she cried out to matt that he was suppose to save him didn’t mean anything either. Her humanity, for once, got the better of her and she had been hoping against hope that she’d interpreted her dream wrong, and that Matt would physically save Nathan afterall. It’s like telling yourself you didn’t just lock your keys in your car. You’re searching your pockets frantically, thinking maybe you just misplaced them…but you know better. That sinking feeling of dread in your stomach confirms it before you’re even done checking your pockets. You’re screwed.
2. Angela didn’t get into depth about her dream, AT ALL. All she said was “matt has to save nathan.” She never specifies how, and even when Claire questions her in the finale, she’s very brief in her explanations. Let’s get serious, how was Matt really going save Nathan anyway? Angela may not have known EVERYTHING (she’d be the first to tell you the future is subjective), but she and Noah came up with their little plan awful fast for two people who hadn’t even considered what her dream MIGHT have meant.
3. In one of the season 4 episodes Angela whispered something to Nathan (it was after Peter confronted both of them and then flew away.) to my knowledge, we never 100% positively learned what she whispered…could it have been something along the lines of “accept your fate Nathan, you know what’s coming.”?
4. She smiled at the television in the diner when Sylar posed as Nathan. As everyone else stared on in shock and horror (even Noah looks disgusted as I recall), she’s SMILING. A sad, longing, bittersweet smile. Looking back, it’s almost as if her train of thought was “that should be my son up there, but it’s not, and it never truly will be.”
5. Claire’s blood. If angela really didn’t know the future had to play out this way, why didn’t they opt to use claire’s blood? is it because he bled out? Is it because her blood only heals organs and tissue? Possibly, but for now this is evidence to back my theory, so I’ll use it.
6. Angela’s speech to Gabriel in volume 3. As I’ve already stated, that speech presented way too much foreshadowing.
7. Why didn’t they kill Sylar then? They didn’t have to find the spot to do away with him. Building 26 was a short trip away with a perfectly viable incinerator. Surely that could have scrounged enough tranquilizer to keep him subdued until they could find a better solution to put him down than matt “mindwiping” him. Angela even knows this plan wouldn’t work forever (or did anyone else forget Linderman healed her own mind once upon a time)? If my theory is correct, it’s because she’s foreseen that even though Sylar won’t be contained forever, that this turn of events will likely be for the best, perhaps even in sylar’s own “redemption”.
8. Angela’s phony mommy routine with sylar in volume 3. Isn’t it a little odd that she faked being his mother in villains, and she’s faking being his mother, again? Angela likely knew what the future held, and that she needed to get inside sylar’s mind, learn about his mommy issues, and use it to her advantage…not just to defeat Arthur, but because using Sylar’s one weakness to her advantage might be the only way to stay one step ahead of him in the future. Surprise! It kept her alive at the end of villains, and it’s keeping her alive now…for now anyway.
I’m not saying i’m right beyond a doubt…but i’d say i have more than enough supporting evidence to back my theory. And at the very least, you’ve got to give it to me that it makes more sense than people whining that the writers just blew a major plot hole in their own story, and Jack Coleman, Hayden, etc., just decided not to bring this to their attention that it made no sense to not use claire’s blood. lol, i think if people spent half as much time debating possibilities and presenting ideas like we do, instead of just bitching about the show, someone would have probably come up with the right solution by now!
@ Nick 05.09.09 at 1:12 am
You know that really fits and explains a lot. Well spotted!
Ok, ok I admit Peter can be smart sometimes- I’m only suggesting it would be more interesting to see him a bit more powerful, thats all. xxx
@ Nick 05.09.09 at 1:12 am
Angela told Claire that in her dream, Nathan was in trouble and MATT Saved HIM. Matt wouldnt be able to do much for a dead person thus if matt saved him he didnt die. when she cried out to matt that he was supposed to save him, after they found him dead, it meant MATT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAVE HIM. or he wasnt supposed to die; according to what she saw in her dream. she even said she didnt understand why it happened. Maybe she interpreted her dream WRONG
omg i think flint gordon is still alive according to the graphic novel on the last page the list of names has gordon.f on it
@changs
or maybe when the moment came, she was in denial of what she was about to do. Who wouldn’t want to tell themselves at the last second that they “didn’t really know all along” about the horrific thing they were going to do.
Plus, I still have seven points that strongly hint I’m on to something that proves this wasn’t a simple plot hole and failed opportunity to use claire’s blood.
@tarot
thank you!
@ Nick 05.09.09 at 1:12 am
You have some very good and interesting points there (I’m glad you noticed Angela smiling in the Diner – thought it was just me! But watch again… could the ’smile’ have been a misinterpreted grimace? IDK, it def looked like a smile when I first saw the ep, but on second viewing it came across a bit different… or maybe it was a sad smile? Anyway, well spotted)!
I still reckon that at the start of Villains, Angela had no idea exactly HOW important Gabriel was and in what way, or that Nathan was gonna die. The dream she had in the finale, it MIGHT NOT have shown her that Nathan was gonna get killed (c’mon, she knew he was gonna confront Sylar – you don’t have to be a precog to know what’s gonna happen!), but I agree that the reality of it would cause the hysterical reaction that it did – regardless of whether she foresaw it or not.
Also, her reaction when she woke up… and saying “Nathan’s… in trouble” – understatement of the century! – does indicate that she knew the full extent of Nathan’s predicament… so I would agree that she knew for def at this point, but she was in denial until she actually saw his body in that room. But I just disagree that she had knowledge of Nate’s death from earlier on in the Volume, that’s all.
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