“I Am Sylar” ( Season 3 Episode 24 Description,Promo Photos & Trailer )

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by Matej ( Heroes Television)

Heroes 3×24 episode is titled as ” I Am Sylar”. Episode airs on 20th April.

SYLAR’S NEW ABILITY BEGINS TO TAKE ITS TOLL ON HIM

Sylar continues his unusual partnership and begins to have an unexpected identity crisis. Hiro and Ando take measures toward bringing down Building 26.

Meanwhile, Matt’s new found fatherhood changes his priorities. Elsewhere, Nathan sets a plan in motion to right the wrongs of his government operation.

Jack Coleman, Hayden Panettiere, Sendhil Ramamurthy, Cristine Rose and Milo Ventimiglia also star. Noah Gray-Cabey, Lisa Lackey,Ellen Greene and Željko Ivanek also guest star.


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Sylar 03.30.09 at 11:03 pm

I can’t wait for this epsode!

Matt 03.30.09 at 11:21 pm

This sounds like Sylar takes the shapshifting ability!!

I am Sylar 03.30.09 at 11:24 pm

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pjanthony 03.30.09 at 11:59 pm

Hey guys, I can’t remember, whats this new ability Sylar has??…. anybody??
pj

Tarot 03.31.09 at 12:01 am

I wanna know what ability Sylar gets and from whom.

pjanthony 03.31.09 at 12:10 am

Are all you guys talking about him getting the shape shifters ability??? We know him and Danko will be looking for a SS in a nightclub on tonights episode, so I guess this is what you guys are talking about, although I don’t see it as a definite that Sylar will actually catch this SS, probably will but I’m guessing the SS has more of a chance of getting away than anyone else (for obvious reasons)…..

Anyway won’t be ling until we all find out what happens next only 50 more minutes…. Well let me know what all you guys are thinking…pj

pjanthony 03.31.09 at 12:16 am

Oh sorry just copped on and put it all together…. It says Sylar starts having an identity crisis so its pretty much a given that he will get the power and now its also obvious that this is the new ability they are talking about…. Makes sense once you read it all, probably should have done that first….lol…

Anyway sorry about that guys….pj

Snow White 03.31.09 at 12:24 am

Heroes is getting boring. Sometimes I don’t even know why I watch it anymore. I mean they keep killing off my favorite character, I really wished Heroes would stop being so stupid. Honestly, Sylar is getting so boring. I mean shape shifting now leading to the big climax, it’s SOO boring.

And I’m like usually a big fan, but come on, I loved Tracy and Daphne, those were like the two I really identified with on the show, I mean come on, two birds with one stone much? I don’t care, Heroes has lost its finesse, I sincerely want to be excited for the rest of the season, but I just can’t find it in me. Sylar, Peter, other over powered idiots are just hard to like.

And now there’s a Sylar centric episode? God, you dare not see him get killed. This is stupid and unfair, flat out bias. I thought this show was about Heroes and all I see is idiots running around ruining each others lives, even the “Heroes” are just killing themselves.

I hope it works out for Heroes! I’m gonna stop watching. hahaha.

James 03.31.09 at 2:06 am

Sylar has the shapeshifting ability now.

The FYG future has become all but confirmed now too, with the confirmation that Sylar and Nathan will share scenes in the finale and in season 4 Matt will go to get lengths to protect his kid.

The measures Hiro and Ando take will involve Micah, just something to add there.

This episode is the one where we will see Sylar walking around in his pyjamas with a wound in the back of his head.

Finally, it was great tonight to see Peter back on the road to reconnecting with his empathy.

The pieces are falling together. The Petrelli’s will be back together soon, Nathan will face off against Sylar, likely get killed, Peter takes revenge. Sylar becomes Nathan and disappears.

Strawn 03.31.09 at 3:42 am

@James

I’m definitly seeing either Nathan or Peter dying,and I like that theory of yours about Nathan!

Dreaddie 03.31.09 at 5:47 am

Problem is that somebody has to blow up Kirby Plaza… and how does Nathan clear his name? Nathan (rather, Sylar as Nathan’s form) cannot get to the political stance he was in “5 Years Gone”. Although I can see it happening if Parkman uses his ability thinking he is helping “Nathan” when he is actually helping Sylar. But we’re all getting a little ahead of ourselves. I do see a grim future ahead, and a possible skip ahead in the timeline to start the next Volume.
Dreaddie.. out.

Heroesgurl 03.31.09 at 4:33 pm

I’ve heard that Peter dies and Nathan meets Sylar in the last episode (cehck heroes ODI). I can’t believe Nathan and Sylar haven’t met yet. Everyone else has had at least one terrifying experience with Sylar (sorry if I’m wrong) so hopefully it will be pretty gripping and dramatic. I don’t want Nathan to die, he’s only just gone good again, he still has loads to offer to the show, as does Peter. I think they should get rid of the useless characters that we aren’t bothered about. Then again they might want to really shake Heroes up by killing one of the main characters. But please leave the Petrelli brothers alone LOLX! :D

A5J4D X 03.31.09 at 8:02 pm

i think the shapeshifting ability might have a problem such as it wont allow sylar to change back but its only a guess lol but cant wait!

Neil 03.31.09 at 8:35 pm

A5J4D X, Interesting theory on Sylar not being able to switch back. That would be crazy. I think the last big character death has to be Nathan, it makes sense. However, who knows with Heroes! I can’t wait to find out!

roderick6718 03.31.09 at 11:28 pm

i think Angela will take Peter and claire to Samson Gray in the hospital before he dies and explain to him that Peter needs his abilities to stop his son before he destroy’s everything Samson ask’s what in it for me and claire gives him some of her blood and he heals not before peter takes his abilities and i think Angela is angry with him because Sylar’s mother was her sister Wendy that he killed…..Just a thought

Heroes Fan 04.01.09 at 12:03 am

In all honesty, Sylar should be killed because he is the villain afterall, but because the viewers like him so much, he stays on the show. But I still like him as a villain. Zachary Quinto has to be very talented to play a role as a villain, but be liked by the audience more than the heroes. Very ironic. His character is just so fascinating that the writers do not want to risk killing him off.

For the last time, Tracy is NOT dead. She is going to return. The witers have confirmed it, and plus there was a frickin hint when she winked. Come on people. As for Daphne, I loved her character only because of the relationship between her and Matt. Other than that, she is actually a boring character compared to the rest. I think it was about time she died. You have to give these writers props because it is not an easy show to write with so many characters and storylines happening at once. Somehow they pull it all together, which I have got to admit is fantastic. I don’t think these writers get enough recognition for their hard work. In all honesty, I am sick of hearing people complain like little babies just because they don’t understand what the characters are saying, and only understand fight scenes. If this show is too hard or confusing for you to understand, then don’t watch it! Nobody is forcing you to watch it. So, stop fucking complaining and ruining the fun for all those Heroes Fans out there. Nobody wants to her your complaing. Go watch a show that doesn’t involve thinking like American Idol or Dancing with the stars….

Arthassia 04.01.09 at 5:31 am

Dreaddie, the only person who knows about Nathan’s ability is Danko. The camera didn’t record anything, it was turned off. (Go check it again)

Hmmm Sylar having an identity crisis, I wonder if it’s a pun or if it’s literally-speaking. I think with all the activities he takes on, he loses himself.

Chloe 04.01.09 at 6:37 am

Oh No! Sylar might not be able to change back =O

I will cry if I can’t have the Sexy man that makes Heroes the best appear on TV …

=(

Bethany 04.01.09 at 6:38 am

It would be funny if Sylar get stuck in between two people or something!

Dano 04.01.09 at 12:51 pm

Sylar wont die. atleast not in this season and peter will get his power to utilise multiple abilities back (its the only way that he can fight sylar on level grounds…which will keep the show interesting….ulitimate bad guy vs ultimate good guy.) but he will only have acces to the abilities he has come into contact with since injecting himself with the syrum…..(So no time travel….but he will be able to freeze time…when he hooks up with Hiro again. so on and so forth)

Heroes is a cool show but the writers have really screwed up the plot in the last 2 seasons.. the sooner they get peter up to sylars power level again the sooner the show will become more interesting. SO HURRY UP AND GIVE PETER HIS POWERS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David 04.01.09 at 4:50 pm

I am so bored with this show.

i m peter. 04.01.09 at 5:58 pm

IT will be more interesting if they give peter’s power back to him.As volume 4 is not so interesting.

Al 04.02.09 at 4:53 pm

guys ill tell what i think gonna be in finale peter will touch syler he’ll get all his power back and then we will a really big battle

andy 04.02.09 at 8:07 pm

i think it would be cool if Peter vs sylar sylar tries to kill Peter and Nathan gets redemption by what hes done and jumps in the way of Peter Sylar puts Nathan somewere knowone can see and kils him and fights bpeter peter wins but Sylar morphs into Nathan and sais “I me bback and laughs or Sylar wins fight that two posssiblities woul be the most intresting

bob 04.03.09 at 1:54 pm

heores hasn’t been the same since they took peters powers away and it’s got worse there on in, hiro and peter had the best powers along with sylar yet they had there powers taken away, they gave sylar his powers after the virus took them away so why not write some storyline where peter gets all his powers back and give hiro all his powers back not just freeze time ability, they could get let peter absorb baby matt parkmans ability who could then turn all his former abilities back on and give hiro all his power back or have baby matt parkman turn on all of hiros ability and let him go back in time and stop arthur petrelli taking all of peters powers thus changing the future again to a better one where peter kicks ass.

also, it is getting really annoying watching danko and sylar win all the time, so for crying out loud give peter his powers back and let him destroy danko and his government operation and have a massive fight with sylar.

i hope samson ray comes back into heroes because he has a lot of abilities and could become the new super villain and could even be as powerful as his son.

changs 04.03.09 at 8:00 pm

hey from the episode ‘into asylum’, was sylar really in the car talking with danko or was he using some kind of ability from that roof top?

Swm 04.03.09 at 8:56 pm

Up for debate, that one. Either he wasn’t in the car, in which case he has acquired an ability that lets him astral project or whatever the hell that was, off-screen and without anyone knowing about it, or he was in the car and he used one of his existing abilities to leap to the top of a tall building in the space of what, seconds?

I like to think the writers aren’t stupid enough to think they could get away with the former without anyone noticing. Assuming he does not demonstrate this “new” power again, I am lead me to the second thesis- that he used an existing ability. The only ability we know he has that comes even remotely close to letting him perform such a feat is his telekinesis. It’s been able to give him limited flight-like powers at several points in the show (when he took Dale Smither’s power, to escape from Audrey in early Season 1), which could potentially let him fly. It also explains how he found Doyle so damn quickly and got him back to Danko’s apartment so fast.

Now, the one sticking point with this thesis is that when Sylar vanishes, there’s no sound. Even if his TK allows him to essentially fly, he’d still have to get out of the car first. My only answer for this- and I realise it’s not a good one given the time scale we’re talking about- is that he used his ability to manipulate sound to mask the door opening, then flew away using TK. Now, obviously, this is a long shot of shorts. But the alternative is to essentially say that the writer’s made a horrible horrible plot error and forgot what powers Sylar actually has…

Bob 04.05.09 at 3:26 am

Tracy didn’t wink when she shattered to the floor. She blinked away a tear. She was crying because she was DEAD!

Swm 04.05.09 at 7:44 am

No, she winked. Besides which, the fact that she actually moved at all after being shattered into pieces seems to indicate the same thing- that she was still able to control herself after freezing herself solid. If that’s the case, and it is, then the door is open for her to return (if she can control herself after being broken up, it’s not a big leap to say she could put herself back together again).

F.D. 04.06.09 at 8:59 pm

if she can control herself after being broken up, it’s not a big leap to say she could put herself back together again

Which I find kind of disappointing. After their “The Fly” rip-off with Mohinder’s injection, they’re basically turning Tracy into a T-1000 able to melt itself together after being shattered…

Xtxtn 04.07.09 at 5:46 am

Sylar is so stupid. I’m sure the actor likes having a job, but the character is tired and lame. It’s the same crap after crap: psycho dude on an evil high who blahs out psudo wisdom, its boring.

ymerli 04.07.09 at 1:19 pm

i dont knowpeter can one sustain 1 power at a time

its his ability to absorb other powers

why does peter have to be the hero im sick of him cant someone else save the day

docwho4421 04.07.09 at 2:51 pm

just a thought….back in season 1 we got a glimpse of nathan as president, but it was really sylar…now that he has the shapeshifting ability, i think the series is coming full circle back to the first few episodes.

thepoopsmith 04.07.09 at 6:41 pm

tracys dead. ali latars gonna come back as barbara.
also i think sylar has some kinda mirror/reflection teleporting power. in the first episode of villains when sylar is in claires house, you can see sylar walk behind her, but when she turns around he isnt there. but then the camera turns around and you can see sylars reflection in some glass on the right side of the screen.
also before sylar appears in danko’s car the camera shows his side view mirror then shows it again when sylar is on the rooftop

fight or flight 04.07.09 at 7:49 pm

ymerli – Peter is not the only one who can stop Sylar! Hiro can now stop time again and he still knows his samurai techniques so all he needs is a sword. I’m pretty sure Sylar wouldn’t be able to re-grow his head, only regenerate if his head was attached to his body again. Matt can use his telepathy to get inside his head and control Sylar for however long he pleases, and thats probably without maxing out his ability. The Haitian can stop anyone from using their abilities and if thats not good enough, he could take Sylars memories away from him. Claude is invisible, Sylar wouldn’t see him coming. Tracey has a fifty percent chance of being alive (because we don’t know who the third person to die is and Daphne is not coming back because she flatlined) so she could freeze Sylar, even baby Matt could switch his powers off, the possibilities are endless!

changs 04.08.09 at 7:25 am

its not that easy. For Matt, I doubt it would be an easy task trying to gt inside sylars head, and while hes tryn, sylar can quickly attack him. As for tracy, shell probably have to get close to him before attempting to freeze him and you know it will be almost impossible because he’ll just keep using his TK to slam her plus he now has the shape shifting ability which makes it even harder to find him. The only person who has a sure chance of defeating sylar is the Haitian. but he cannot defeat him on his own. as for claude, he also has a chance but if he doesnt know who sylar is(shape-shift), he cannot attack him. and the baby would need to touch him before he can affect him in any way. Also, who remembers when hiro froze time in S1 and tried to kill sylar, it didnt work. maybe he did something wrong. remember how the puppet man tried to control sylar, it didnt work as well and you probably would have said he could control him if you hadnt seen that episode. remember how his dad tried to control him with that ability that made him paralyzed, it didnt work. so you see its not that simple.

Swm 04.08.09 at 1:31 pm

“tracys dead. ali latars gonna come back as barbara.”

I dispute this. We know there’s 2 real and 1 fake death this season, and Tracy is either real or fake. We know Daphne’s dead for real (given the work the writers put into her death scene, I’d be surprised if that wasn’t real), and that Sylar will be responsible for the OTHER real death in the season finale. That leaves only the fake, which therefore has to be Tracy by simple elimination.

Alternatively, Tracy may return and be killed by Sylar. But even then, you’re still wrong in saying she’s dead right now.

On the “who can kill Sylar” stuff:

Matt certainly could, maybe not 1 vs 1 but certainly if he had help. He could walk Sylar off a building and hand him an anvil if he wanted to.

Tracy doesn’t need to be close, her Cold Snap freezes the entire area so there’s no chance of him getting away.

The Hatian can kill Sylar by himself, as he’s a decent fighter in his own right, and Sylar’s not actually that lethal without his powers.

Hiro’s time-stop most likely wore off due to his confusion over whether he wanted to kill Sylar or not, I doubt Sylar broke out of it on his own (how could he? time was stopped). Hiro could therefore easily stop time + decapitate.

Sylar’s telekinesis was used on Doyle to subdue him, it did actually work on him to start with (remember, he was strung up like a puppet for several seconds).

Samson’s sedation did not work on Sylar due to Claire’s ability. If he can regenerate body parts he’s certainly able to shrug off the effects of a tranquiliser, as seen when Danko’s team tried to stun him. If you sedate someone you’re essentially doing the same thing, so it’s not surprising that Sylar could survive that.

gotay78 04.08.09 at 3:51 pm

@Swm, good pointing out on Sylar being able to recover quickly from sedation because you noticed two episodes ago when Claire drank that guy under the table and couldn’t become intoxicated…I think Sylar is a bit pissed off at Danko almost getting him killed and may get rid of him soon because regardless of Danko’s excuse, Sylar definitely would’ve died right there if HRG caught him in the back of the head…Parkman has his father’s ability which we saw in Season 2 where he trapped Nathan and Matt in their minds by just walking through a door…they’ve said Larter will be back as Tracy I believe and there is an invisible guy coming up in the episode “Invisible Thread”, but it’s a different actor than the guy who played Claude in Season 1 so he may be a different character entirely. Angela’s sister can control weather like Storm from X-MEN so that should be a crazy ability to see.

Tiamat2000 04.08.09 at 5:15 pm

Dont forget about Mia or Mya however you spell her name Mohinder’s one time fling, she could take Sylar out if he’s within range and she could be hidden so he could not find her to stop

Nick 04.08.09 at 11:02 pm

remember Arthur Petrelli took Mya’s power because she didn’t want it

Tarot 04.09.09 at 2:04 am

@ gotay78, That’s not what IMDb says. Claude (Christopher Eccleston) is listed in episode 25 “An Invisible Thread.”

Melanie 04.09.09 at 4:32 am

Bryan Fuller confirmed in the commentary for “Cold Snap” that Tracy was NOT dead. the wink was a sign to let fans know, since Heroes has been accused of “fake” deaths before. Look it up if you don’t believe me! Daphne, however, is really dead.

F.D. 04.09.09 at 9:11 pm

@ gotay78, That’s not what IMDb says. Claude (Christopher Eccleston) is listed in episode 25 “An Invisible Thread.”

This is quite fantastic news! Let’s hope IMDB is not wrong then. I wonder if Peter will turn to him once again to train his (lame) ability.

confusion 04.10.09 at 4:45 pm

remember when the haitian had the shanti virus he got cured and quite obviously has all his power still. So am i right in assuming that sylar still has all his abilities from season 1 including teds nuclear power. The only abilities he won’t have are the ones he took when he was ill. If this is the case then it is possible for the bomb in nyc to still happen.
also, and i might of missed something here, mohinders mother told him that his sister died a few years after he was born but he says at the end of season 1 that he was born a few months to late to help his sister.
also when hiro failed to kill sylar when he froze time he was himself responsible for time restaring as shown when ando was able to enter the room.

sylar buddy 04.12.09 at 3:09 am

syla shoul look the same

James 04.14.09 at 2:19 am

Confusion, the Haitian has one power and that is all he retained. Sylar only retained powers which were more than just a kill trophy; intuitive aptitude, empathic mimicry and telekinesis. The writers have been over it countless times.

Huh 04.14.09 at 2:37 am

So after 1961 plus the pics here: Nathan looks completely screwed unless Peter shows up. What is Sylar doing with Micah?

sylar buddy 04.14.09 at 3:16 am

sylar got 3 options
1 kill micah talk to computers
2make micah his parter
3 leave him alone
i hope it’s 2

brian 04.14.09 at 3:53 am

in season 1 peter could only hang on to 1 ability at a time until his fall with sylar. sylar’s main ability is to absorb multiple ones. whenever sylar and peter fight again is when peter will be able to have multiple abilities at once.

Jeremy 04.14.09 at 4:27 am

peters original ability was also to take on other ppls abilities…his meet with sylar in season 1 had nothing to do with it

Heroes Fan 04.14.09 at 5:11 am

The Haitian had a different Shanti virus strain…that is why he kept his powers.

Sylar only kept Intuitive Aptitude, Empathic mimcry, and telekinesis.
The induced radioactivity and precog painting in the future was aqcuired between the present and that future.

Swm 04.14.09 at 8:17 am

We know Sylar can take abilities through empathy, NOT that he has empathic mimicry. It’s more likely that his intuitive aptitude simply evolved to allow him to do what he did with Elle and James Martin, then him having Peter’s ability but never using it until Volume 3. The writers have never said Sylar has Peter’s old ability.

King Mark 04.14.09 at 9:13 am

Even though I saw those images, I STILL believe that Nathan will be saved at the last second by having the other heroes arriving behind Sylar, with the exception of Noah, Sandra, and Mohinder, that is.

joe 04.14.09 at 10:18 am

So sylar can get over sedation with claires power, and claire cannot get drunk. Didn’t Kensai have the same power? how could he get drunk? When Hiro first met him after the eclipse in the 1600’s he was a drunk. Yet claire cannot get drunk? hmmm…

Swm 04.14.09 at 10:30 am

Kensei only got drunk before his ability manifested (i.e. when he was shot by Whitebeard- his terrified reaction makes it clear it was the first time). After it did, we never saw him drunk. It’s consistent- Arthur was certainly never drunk, nor Sylar.

tonie 04.14.09 at 10:59 am

imdb says that in the final episode “an invisible thread” christopher eccleston(claude) does indeed return, aswell as monica dawson(dana davis, who has the power to mimic movements she witnesses) and ali larter as TRACY STRAUSS! :D il also point out that adrian pasdar(nathan petrelli) and jimmy jean louis(the haitian) arent listed which would suggest that nathan dies in the 2nd to last episode, and that the haitian isnt invlolved in the episode. im hoping that imdb proves to be reliable as this sounds like one hell of a finale :)
ps. it also doesnt mention matt parkman, baby matt parkman, or ando. although i dont think that either matt parkman dies in the 2nd to last episode ando myt be exiting, which could meen that sylar has his power. just an idea tho :)

Tarot 04.14.09 at 1:02 pm

@tonie, 2 things I hope for: 1) That IMDB is right and 2)if they are right, Claude survives.

F.D. 04.14.09 at 1:48 pm

The writers have never said Sylar has Peter’s old ability.

My theory: I’m positive he has the same ability as Peter had, but is more limited because he is no way in tune with everyone else’s feeling like Peter was. Sylar is too focused on his own agenda to care about how other people feel (hint: just like Peter, currently). It’s called “empathic mimicry”. No empathy = no mimicry. He empathized with Elle and James, which allowed him to mimic their abilities. But he will never be able to simply take all abilities around him, because he’s not empathic by nature.

Peter also disconnected with his empathy when Arthur stole his powers. Since then he is too focused on his own failure and doing whatever he has to do to save the world anyway to truly connect with other people’s feelings. Like Sylar, he has his agenda, whereas he previously was an “emotion sponge”. I do believe he will eventually reconnect with his empathy and again be able to take abilities not because he needs them to achieve something specific, but because he can intuitively empathize with other people again.

To summarize: I think Sylar has intuitive aptitude and empathic mimicry, while Peter had intuitive empathy and empathic mimicry. :)

aldaryn 04.14.09 at 1:54 pm

Tracy is listed in several other episodes she does not appear in on IMDB. I think it’s cause Ali Larter is a season regular so they put her down for every episode. Though, Tracy is supposed to come back before it’s over according to Fuller. I’m not confident in imdb but I would really like to see Claude and Monica again. Monica makes more sense since previews show Micah..

TOM 04.14.09 at 1:55 pm

if cluade is in the last episode i think he will die and the peter / sylar fight will be a draw so none of those 2 will die and tracy will be alive (my opinion)

Tarot 04.14.09 at 1:59 pm

@TOM, if they kill Claude I will probably stop watching.

TOM 04.14.09 at 2:00 pm

Lol I wouldnt like them to kill any one else but they say they are going to and ijust hope it isnt peter

F.D. 04.14.09 at 2:47 pm

I was convinced that Nathan was the dying character but now I’m beginning to believe it might be Angela.

Last episode hinted us that the Petrelli family might get working on a “Company” of their own in next season, turning it into what it was supposed to be in the first place: a group who help people with abilities. They could very well do it in Angela’s memorial, especially considering she’s the last one standing from the original company if we assume Arthur is dead for good.

gotay78 04.14.09 at 2:48 pm

The character that will die is most likely Nathan by all accounts…not only do we see Sylar about to cut his head open, but another scene wiping his hands off with a towel (most likely blood like he always does) in the same room where he was with Nathan…he could get away, no questions about it, but it seems unlikely…also, they said a Heroe would die in the Finale so I’m not sure if this is what they meant…I just hope it isn’t Peter but from some of the looks of the pics of Nathan, it seems like Sylar has killed him and is getting comfortable being him…also, not sure what the knife in Sylar’s head signifies but I saw a scene somewhere else I thought where Danko stabbed him in the back of the head…could be a fake out though…If he has Micah, he won’t keep him for long because Micah is one of the good guys and too important to the redemption cause…Also, Sylar won’t know he has an ability unless he uses it somehow & doubt Sylar kills a teen…have a feeling that’s where either Tracy or Monica will save him…it seems Ando gets zapped again by tasers like they showed of Mohinder so do they get captured again? Also, I think Claude is back for a main reason…remember, he’s the one who taught Peter how to control multiple abilities and I think he will once again show Peter the extent of his power…Peter didn’t even know he had TK until Claude tried to hit him with the stick and he stopped it and snapped it…What will be interesting is to see the HRG re-united with his old partner, Claude…one of us, one of them….and please put the Haitan back next season..he was the man!

Herolite 04.14.09 at 3:11 pm

WOOOOW Micah and Sylar have a scene, i am afraid very afraid!!!!

GOOD GOD BRING ON NEXT TUESDAY

Tarot 04.14.09 at 3:19 pm

@gotay78, I don’t think Claude would reunite with HRG. Hit him over the head with something, maybe, but I don’t think he will ever trust HRG again.

thepoopsmith 04.14.09 at 3:27 pm

i dont think sylar is going to kill nathan, he can already assume his life cause nathans off the grid. besides it says sylar kills someone in the finale which is the one after this one. and it looks like danko shoots nathan with a one of those stun guns. i think they are going to capture nathan, mohinder, ando and maybe some other people and hiro and peter are going to stop time and release the prisoners of building 26, kinda like the graphic novel when future peter and future hiro saved future niki.

F.D. 04.14.09 at 3:29 pm

Claude coaching Peter into getting his EM back would certainly be a cool way to end the season and making sure viewers come back to see season 4.

I too want to see Claude+HRG in action. They seemed to be quite badasses together from what we’ve seen in graphic novels.

Having the Petrellis start another, somewhat more benevolent Company would be a sure shot at making season4 come back to season1’s roots. I really miss the “bag & tag” and “one of us one of them” feel of previous seasons. But I cannot see how they could have Peter involved in that AND allow him to have EM back, because he would obviously become way too strong if he had anything to do in a “Level 5-ish” scenario.

Tarot 04.14.09 at 3:32 pm

@F.D. , I think the only way we may see Claude working /with/ HRG is in flashbacks.

Swm 04.14.09 at 3:40 pm

HRG shot Claude. Not a lot of love there. However, should Claude return (and lord knows he should), there’s plenty of scope for good things between him and other characters, especially Peter and Noah, even should they not work together again. Plus, I don’t doubt the Hatian wouldn’t like that very much. His misanthropy was always a good contrast to Peter’s optimism. Seeing him next to the more serious Peter would be a nice touch.

Nick 04.14.09 at 3:44 pm

See, this is why I’m glad I just watch the show instead of write for it. All these whiny people complaining and moaning about every little thing the writers do to these characters is just so obnoxious. Pretend for two seconds you’re in charge of writing a story revolving around a dozen plus characters, and people are pissing about every little thing:

“Claire IS SO AnNoYiNg. I hate every episode she has screen time, you should just kill her off.”

“I love Sylar, he should be in every episode, every episode he’s not in sux!!!!!”

Give me a break. We all have our favorites, and we all have our characters we can do without. What makes Heroes so good is that we can all relate to a handful of the cast. Personally, I loved Daphne, and I hated that she died, but if that’s what it took to move the plot forward (matt meeting his son, and raising him with his wife), then so be it. Not to mention her death scene was one of the most poetic and powerful scenes done in Heroes to this day. Take it for what it is. Move on.

I’m with Heroes Fan, for the LAST TIME, TRACY ISN’T DEAD. Stop debating the whole crying/winking thing (the writers confirmed it was a blink, followed by a tear, FYI). They’ve also confirmed she’s coming back, as her death was the “fakeout” Bryan Fuller referred to in a recent interview. Quit complaining that she’s dead, she’s not. Quit debating as to whether or not she is, and instead of whining about “facts” you don’t even have straight, do your homework.

If you’re “so bored” with the show, then quit watching. Better yet, quit commenting on your boredom on these boards. No one here knows you, and no one hear cares that you’re bored. If you’re “so bored” that you’re writing on message boards for a show you hate, then I think “Heroes” might be the least of your issues.

The problem with a lot of the critics of this show is that in reality it’s too complicated for them to follow. The subtle easter eggs and throwbacks they manage to slip in are extremely clever and prove the writers aren’t just flying on a whim each episode. They’ve had a lot planned right from the start, as they illustrated in last night’s episode (with the socks). Again, as heroesfan previously stated, if you don’t like Heroes, go watch something more your mentality, like Dancing With the Stars.

thepoopsmith 04.14.09 at 4:01 pm

i think the socks were something openended from the first episode that they could have done ANYTHING with and decided to play the sock card for angela and alices relationship. o and to ^”nick”^, who does homework for a tv show? if you have to work to enjoy a television show just die. please do everyone else a favor and die. why do u complain about other people complaining? u pussy your sucha cockdoosh and everyone you love is n 2 anal sex and bondage.

F.D. 04.14.09 at 4:20 pm

HRG shot Claude.

Wasn’t that a cover-up ? Pretend Claude was dead to allow him to quit the Company ?

Tarot 04.14.09 at 4:30 pm

@F.D.
The /Company/ ordered HRG to shoot Claude. If you watch “Company Man” it’s clear that Claude didn’t believe HRG would do that but he used his gift and the situation to fake his own death. HRG believed that he had in fact killed Claude until Isaac painted Peter as partially invisible as well as several confusing scenes that appeared empty 7 years later in NYC.

F.D. 04.14.09 at 5:53 pm

I remember the scene at the bridge. But I was under the impression that if Noah really wanted him dead, he would’ve nailed him down.

But anyways, even if they are not buddies anymore, it doesn’t mean they can’t be partners. Noah had to team with Sylar for a while and they were not exactly the best friends in the world.

It further makes sense considering Noah is at a stage where he wishes to sort his life out. He’s been through a lot with Claude, and I’m willing to bet he was more than just a partner for him. This should be where we get the “I’m sorry bro” line, and Claude takes several episodes in Season 4 to forgive him. :)

thepoopsmith 04.14.09 at 7:49 pm

y is everyone on this forum in love with claude? he’s a minor character from season 1. and y would he want to come back? doesnt he hate everyone? and the heroes are planning to make a new company, im pretty sure claude wont want any part of that.

King Mark 04.14.09 at 8:18 pm

@ thepoopsmith

He MAY have been a minor, but we saw plenty of him in Season 1, and I think Claude may be starting to see action again. He could very well be in Redemption.

As far the making a new company goes, only Angela hinted at it in “1961″, meaning it’s something they may still discard.

@Tarot

If you’re talking about the scene at the bridge, Noah didn’t shoot. HE was shot by the Haitian. Claude was not in the scene. (or, at least, he wasn’t seen ON it.)

F.D. 04.14.09 at 8:27 pm

I love Claude specifically because he hates everyone. He’s the anti-social, unshaved, grumpy, and to-the-point character of the show. I mean, he throwed Peter off of a roof saying “FLY!” figure he could regenerate… after he crattered. If that’s not interesting for you, I wonder what would be. :)

As to why he would want to come back, he probably doesn’t… but maybe he’ll be forced to. We’ve seen in graphic novels that Danko has a lead on him, so he might be in trouble soon. We also know Claude has been covering people with abilities from Primatech. If the new “Company” fulfills this goal, he could have a reason to come aboard. He could want to make sure the new company doesn’t repeat the same mistakes as the other one, and his experience would be quite reliable in this regard.

peter man 04.14.09 at 8:49 pm

i just studied the pics up top…sad to say folks…but nathan is really gone…if you would look at the pic were Danko is holding the shotgun to the floor in the bottom left corner you can see the back of nathans shoes and part of his pants on the floor…plus the pic on the bottom that one were Danko is seen holding the shotgun to the floor but Sylar is in right by him…..so the predictions are right…..its official…Nathan is dying next episode!!

alexx 04.14.09 at 8:58 pm

i am answering the posts from the previous episode.

the reason i keep on bringing up the kaitlin plot hole (yes it is a plot hole!) is because peters actions in season 2 were with her and yes his brother got shot straight after, followed by him being trapped in jesse’s body, and then the whole pinehursts thing so yes he’s been busy…but he hasnt even mentioned her. the non mentioning not looking back thing is a problem in heroes. hiro did it for the first time recently n we’re in season 3!

how does matt feel about mory’s death? does hiro even remember charlie, yako from season two, is claire ever going to mention whether meradith gordon survived primatch explosion.

as i have constantly been saying, it would make sence for angela to have the haiten make peter forget about kaitlin because if peter returned to that time, he risked the return of the shanti virus. it would fill the plot hole of him completely forgetting about her.

btw i hate that heros is killing off so many characters, at least 30 dead since it started, villains ended with no villains standing, generations ended with most of the generation before peter dead. what can we expect to come…

Swm 04.14.09 at 9:30 pm

Matt does not know Maury is dead, I’d say. He had very little to do with Pinehearst with the exception of Daphne, and Maury was after Nathan, not his son. Most likely Meredith did not survive the building falling in. But I agree with you, it should have been mentioned. Claire’s comment “I should be a basket case.” was the perfect moment for that.

FD: I think Noah shot Claude on company orders, but his heart wasn’t really in it which is why he didn’t go for the head. There is room for that partnership to be remade, I’d say. Mark, we’re on about a different scene on the same bridge that occurs at the end of Company Man.

Poopsmith: Claude is probably the most-liked minor they never brought back. He gets a lot of graphic novels detailing his history with the company and HRG, as well as his location circa Volume 3 (in England). His character is also well-developed (I’ll protect my own and the rest of the world can go drown in its own crap), and he’s the perfect parallel to Peter. He could look at Peter now and say “See, I was right! People suck! Even you see it now!”

As for why he’d come back, he was protecting evolved humans on multiple occasions. Danko’s reach doesn’t extend to the UK, but it’s more then plausible that HRG have/may have contacted him in order to get his help, since he knows he’s alive. If the invisible man Danko mentioned in Puppet with No Strings is Claude, then he’s already in the US and is much easier to contact. And as FD says, if they’re building a new Company, HRG is going to want individuals he can trust- and where better to look then his old partners like The Hatian and Claude?

F.D. 04.14.09 at 9:56 pm

Matt does not know Maury is dead

He definitely does. He learned it by reading Daphne’s mind (who witnessed the kill) in Eris Quod Sum.

Now why would he care? Maury traumatized him as a child, then Matt had to lock him in his own mental prison after he almost made him and Nathan kill each other, and sent Molly to coma land. Matt is too straight to be happy about his father’s death, but he certainly won’t cry about it.

King Mark 04.14.09 at 10:25 pm

@peter pan

Actually, come to think of it, if what you say about the back of Nathan’s shoe and pants is true, then you must have some keen eyes. All I saw was the chair leg and Danko’s gun pointed down. Plus, that guy could actually be Sylar on the floor since he has shape-shifting and Danko could betray the guy. Finally, the spoiler said the death happens on the FINAL episode, not the next, so don’t count the predictions as God just yet.

Nick 04.14.09 at 10:44 pm

poopsmith, all i’m saying is get your facts straight before you bitch…and who talks like that, what are you, 12?

Nick 04.14.09 at 10:50 pm

On a side note I do agree about Claude. He was a minor character to progress volume 1, that’s all. There’s no reason to bring him back, especially now. It would make about as much sense as dropping Maya back in the fray.

Miracle 04.14.09 at 11:16 pm

I didn’t see a pant leg or anything, but I saw Sylar wiping his hands and Sylar doing his TK scalpel move. It just looks too obvious that Nathan is about to bite the dust, I can only imagine how he would escape that scene alive. A dead Sylar is about as bad as a dead Pete. You gotta keep your ultimate good guy and his arch nemesis…

King Mark 04.14.09 at 11:46 pm

@Miracle

Ah! The wiping of the hands, you say? Has no blood seen on it. Maybe he just washed his hands or something. Plus, I never really remembered a scene after Sylar did his brain slice thingy that he wiped his hands, even when he attacked Claire or when he killed that either of the shapeshiters (Candice in Season II and that one guy on “Into Asylum”). Also, he does have an identity crisis, so that might be another thing stopping him from finishing the job. (OK, I’ll admit it, I wanna see Nathan in Redemption, but I think he’s just too vital to go.) I don’t rule out that possibility, though. ;)

jimmy 04.14.09 at 11:59 pm

isnt that sylars mom in the pic holding a thing in her hand
wow its amazing there is a lot of possibilites for whats going to happen this season
if peter dies thts it man
but i think its nathan bc he is gona die but he is gona have his job nxt season bc he has to act as nathan the shapeshifted sylar

Jaigo 04.15.09 at 12:36 am

Remember they said three people Die and one is a fake death, tracy and Daphne real deaths, Sylar fake death. There are your three

Miracle 04.15.09 at 1:19 am

@King Mark, I don’t have any problems with Nathan either. I don’t really wanna see anymore characters die this season besides Danko. Maybe Sylar just washed his hands…LOL… Maybe he just finished doing the dishes or something…LOL.

Seriously though, none of those pictures showed the typical blood you get from Sylar’s TK brain slice. You never know with HEROES, he could kill Micah for all we know.

Tarot 04.15.09 at 1:24 am

@King Mark Please re watch Company Man- ***HRG shot Claude back in 1999.***!!!! That is what I am talking about, not the Haitian shooting HRG for a cover up in 2006 and then the Haitian Mindwiping HRG to protect Claire.

Tarot 04.15.09 at 1:39 am

@Nick 04.14.09 at 10:50 pm- Bringing Claude back makes perfect sense. He’s been mentioned this season both onscreen and in a recent GN.

peter man 04.15.09 at 2:37 am

@ king marc….if you look at the photos…about the middle section you will see that danko is hold the shotgun aiming it down and if you look in the bottom of that same pic towards the left you can the feet of a body that definitely looks like nathans pants and on the other pic its the same pic but with sylar standing by danko….and nathan pants looks just like the body on that floor.

King Mark 04.15.09 at 9:30 am

‘Wow! A lot of responses pointed back at me’ King Mark thinks to himself.

@Tarot

I have the first season in my bedroom, so I might take you up on that.

@Miracle

I agree, but, just to fulfill my curiousity, what’s “TK” stand for?

@peter man

I see that it LOOKS like Nathan’s shoes, but, if you watched “1961″, Sylar didn’t need to touch Nathan to shift into him, and he plays it so well. You can’t rule out that Danko might betray Sylar the next episode. No doubt Nathan will be in danger for the next episode, but if we round up all the clues together, there would still be many possibilities for who’d die in so many ways, and it already said, it WON’T happen in the nex episode. I might have been looking at a different pic, but in the one you ARE talkiing about, could I know the trajectory of how low in the direction Danko is looking?

Chris 04.15.09 at 10:00 am

i just finish watching the “1961″ episode did anyone notice the part when suresh slaps alice and her father comes to her rescue, well after her father gets shot and alice runs under the cabin they focus the camara on a wooden sign “BLDG 26 LAB” i wonder if they were refering to building 26 lol well just wanted to know if i was the only one that notice…

peter man 04.15.09 at 11:41 am

@king mark…..good eye man!!…..i thought it was nathan…but i did forget about them saying that the death will happen at the finale episode!! i wonder if peter will touch the baby and get his power…that would be nice!! so how does sylar change into people without killing or touching them?

Chaotic 04.15.09 at 1:34 pm

@king mark, TK stands for Telekinesis.

Krippler 04.15.09 at 1:48 pm

@ All who complain about the show

I agree with NICK, if your not going to try and really watch and fully understand the show then dont , and stop wastin out time readin u complin about it… and as for the homework comment he doesnt actually do work he jsut likes the show enough to FIND out FACTUAL things rather than sit here whining and complaining likes were watching a damn soap opera or somethign…..The Show is GREAT…if u dont think so WRITE one BETTER

Krippler 04.15.09 at 4:38 pm

Did u guys notice in the last Photo on the left with sylar and Danko, that theres a blade of some sorts in sylars head, but it looks as if it could be fake , but also sylar is kinda shocked in that seen it seems. Show is getting reqallt interesting in my opinion. Take a look at thwe Photo and post ur thoughts plz.

Littlejack 04.15.09 at 4:44 pm

I believe the season future will happen (just slightly differently)
I think nathan will be killed, and Sylar will take his place. Peter will get scarred during the next 2 episodes (due to him only having flying), and then get his powers back last epsiode/next season (from ando/touch and go baby). This means he will later have a face-off with sylar. Also I believe there is a possibility that tracy will come back and become Peter’s Girlfriend (Because Michah will be killed by sylar/expolsion (if that happens)) This will be the reason Peter has ice-abilities when he faces off with sylar from season 1.

I know this will be unlikely and quite farfetched, but i think it’s a good and believable story to create all the products of the season 1 future (if thats what the writers want).

mark 04.15.09 at 5:11 pm

I would love claude back bring claude bring claude back

fav character of all time

the over two I love were elle and adam. Bringing those two back would be stupid as it would make no sense so bring back claude

thepoopsmith 04.15.09 at 5:22 pm

@ nick
1. learn english: “poopsmith, all i’m saying is get your facts straight before you bitch…and who talks like that, what are you, 12?” before i what? fuck your mom?
2. if you agree with me then i must have my facts straight dipshit.

@ king mark
he only trained peter and was in the company man episode thats all he did. and that doesnt mean he’s going to come back

Swm 04.15.09 at 5:32 pm

No, the fact we have at least 2 decently credible sources that say he will, plus a blindingly obvious title head, means there’s a decent chance of it. Also, that wasn’t all he did- his history has been penned in a great deal of depth in the graphic novels. Just because he’s not done much on the show doesn’t mean he won’t come back. Look at Meredith for example…

thepoopsmith 04.15.09 at 5:41 pm

hey swn eat a cockmeatsandwitch no one is talking to u.

F.D. 04.15.09 at 6:56 pm

Why does everyone keep bringing back Peter’s scar. Did writers ever explicitly say this will actually ever happen ?

I think they probably used this scar help viewers to discern both Peters, just like they made future Hiro look like a badass ninja with no glasses. It also served the purpose of making some ink flow, as people keep asking themselves where the hell he got it.

I think the timeline in which he got it is gone.

thepoopsmith 04.15.09 at 6:59 pm

agree

King Mark 04.15.09 at 7:44 pm

@thepoopsmith

U probably misunderstood what I said about Claude, then. I said he COULD come back. Doesn’t mean he will, point taken for that, but I’m just saying it could very be the case.

@F.D.

I’m not so sure the scar will happen, but there is a picture on THIS website with a bleeding Milo on the set that is actually a gateway to another thread, which we all know what that is. That’s a good way to put it, though, even if the Two Ali Larters had less to discern them from at first sight.

@ peter man

Sylar probably knew Nathan well enough that he didn’t NEED to touch him to change into him. That supports a prediction I have of him shapeshifting into Noah for the final episode.

@Chaotic

Thanx, dude!

thepoopsmith 04.15.09 at 7:55 pm

@ littlejack
peter had fire powers and sylar had ice powers in the 5yg episode

raul 04.15.09 at 8:44 pm

i think peter will get sylar’s ability. :)

F.D. 04.15.09 at 8:57 pm

5YG’s Peter vs Sylar was IMHO the most intense moment of the whole series. It was sadly way too short. This kind of encounter should last several minutes. I know the scenes costs $$$ but it’s so much worth it for the viewers.

Peter and Sylar lightening up their respective power and studying each other literally made it feel like a Jedi vs Sith encounter (and I’d go as far as saying it was inspired of it).

The ratings would probably be way better if we had more action and events like this, but it would obviously cost way too much to produce for a tv show (let alone a tv show with bad ratings).

I sadly doubt we’ll get such a fight by the end of this volume. Peter sucks goats right now, and making him suddenly almighty again (for example, by allowing him to take all of Sylar’s powers at once like some people are suggesting) would be kind of lame. I want to see him progressively become powerful again, to earn the strength he’s been asking for since volume 3, until a final face off (for the end of season 4!). I also don’t want him to be a mere copy of Sylar minus the psycho brain. Peter has to get his own set of abilities!

alexx 04.15.09 at 8:57 pm

SOOO MANY POSTS HERE LOL!

WHY IS EVERYONE ON ABOUT TODLER TOUCH AND GO GIVING PETER HIS POWERS BACK.

peter has weaker powers then before, they arent related, they are completely different. hiro’s power was turned on again. peter can have his NEW ability turned OFF but not on…it wouldnt really make sence and if peter absorbs sylars ability it will jsut be really annoying as i liked him with his own absorbing power. though if peter from season one absorbs sylars power and sylar understood peters power, their powers would be identical and it would have made sence if they really were two sons of arther.

King Mark 04.15.09 at 9:53 pm

F.D., the show’s ratings may not have been what it was in Season I, but then again, 5-9 million still is a fair audience.

I bet season IV will attract at least some of the fans back 2 this show and maybe bring about a Season V.

thepoopsmith 04.15.09 at 10:34 pm

@alexx
thank you

King Mark 04.15.09 at 11:00 pm

@thepoopsmith

thank alexx for what?

Miracle 04.16.09 at 12:12 am

@King Mark

TK is shorthand for telekinesis, I just don’t like writing it out that often, too many letters, like congratulations….

thepoopsmith 04.16.09 at 1:09 am

baby matt parkman isnt going to give peter his powers back

Arthassia 04.16.09 at 1:20 am

At Chris..

I noticed that Building 26 sign too!!! It has to be relevant somehow… and with Heroes’ track record, we know it will be. I mean look at the whole SOCKS reference!

At thepoopsmith…

Go back to the gutter where you belong, or better yet go do us all a favour and jump off a cliff & die! How immature can you possibly get? And please learn to spell sandwich. Maybe if you paid attention in class, you would have a better command of the English language, idiot!

Anyway, I do think this current plot is headed towards the 5YG episode…. there may be some changes but the end result will most likely be the same.

Chris 04.16.09 at 4:45 am

it looks like they are going with that future when sylar is president i was watching season one the episode “5 years gone” well when nathan aka “Sylar” has his epic battle with peter. well peter says “you gonna pay for what you did to nathan, what you did in his name” Sylar says “when i kiiled nathan he already turned on his own kind” which may lead you to beleive that nathan will die in the finale because he did turn on his own kind..

wen 04.16.09 at 6:50 am

guys. can anybody tell me where i can download the whole episode of 1961 and i am sylar.. pls.

King Mark 04.16.09 at 9:21 am

@wen

You can actually catch missed episodes of Heroes on G 4 Tuesdays and Wednesdays at %:30 and 10, both p.m.

@Chris

I remembered that B 26 sign too. However, Nathan only wanted to have the heroes “fit in”. He didn’t want to have their asses killed off like Danko-dude, but it all backfired at him. Besides, did you not see what “Issac’s Gift” predict in 3.17 Cold Wars. Washington DC won’t be around in the show for Redemption like it was in 5YG. Rather the future in Redemption will start to carve an even darker path for them.

alexx 04.16.09 at 10:38 am

hows this for a theory

sylar kills nathan in the finali of this season but peter doesnt know. Peter gets powerful again over season 4. At season five finali peter tells sylar that hes guna make him pay for everything he did in nathans name. Sylar says that nathan had already turned his back on his own kind like he did in fugatives and they fight. I know im summarising what other people have said, im only agreeing that this could happen. redemption volume could also be about alice and angela or maybe sylar going good again or if nathan is still alive him fixing everything…

thepoopsmith 04.16.09 at 12:02 pm

@ arthassia
who the fuck gets on here and just talks about old comments? are u swm’s butt buddy or some shit? go choke on a cock and die.
the socks were something they put in when you first meet angela in season one that they could have done anything with. they just chose to bring up the socks for alice.

wen 04.16.09 at 12:30 pm

@king mark

thanks a lot. but the thing is im in KSA. i have no chance to watch it as what u said. all i need is to download the episode.
hope u can help me. or give me some sites

thepoopsmith 04.16.09 at 12:34 pm

y dont get a dvr/tivo

thepoopsmith 04.16.09 at 12:35 pm

*y dont U get a dvr/tivo
my bad

wen 04.16.09 at 12:51 pm

no chance. im in ksa

gotay78 04.16.09 at 2:39 pm

@Peter Man, I see what you mean about Danko holding the shotgun down, but think about it! Nathan has no regeneration ability so why would Danko hold a shotgun to him on the floor?? That must be Sylar and I saw a pic on another site looking as if Danko stabs him in the back of the head with a knife…Danko will definitely betray him and that’s why he was going to let HRG kill him..Sylar was right, he didn’t have to tell him which soldier Sylar was….and when HRG told him Sylar will turn on you, Danko made the face like I don’t trust him anyway and I have my own plan…Sylar I believe will eventually kill Danko or maybe Parkman since it mentioned they go head to head at some point…

F.D. 04.16.09 at 2:52 pm

Danko vs Parkman already occured.

It was when Matt almost killed Danko’s call girl and Hiro saved him from geting shot.

I can’t wait to see that scene with Sylar having a knife behind his head. I have a feeling that having something obstructing this spot not only disables regeneration, but also all abilities. This could be the only way Sylar would be stoppable at all, if ever.

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Peter vs Sylar ended out to be a fists fight with both of them being basically powerless? :D

Cory 04.16.09 at 3:48 pm

I believe Parkman could mess with Sylar pretty bad, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

It looks like Claude will stab Sylar in the back of the head with the knife, but what the fuck do I know? haha

Pure speculation is such conjecture at this point. I find myself reading all of your bullshit ideas and wonder ’shouldn’t I be doing something more productive’? haha

F.D. 04.16.09 at 5:58 pm

It looks like Claude will stab Sylar in the back of the head with the knife, but what the fuck do I know? haha

That would be pretty badass. It would certainly explain Sylar’s “WTF” face. :D

I already see it: Sylar about to cut Nathan’s head open in the last minute of episode 24 then BAM he gets neck raped by a knife for no apparent reason and we only get to figure out how in “An Invisible Thread”!

But would writers simply, for reals, make a knife appear out of nowhere in Sylar’s head to re-introduce Claude? I seriously doubt it. Disabling Sylar is kind of a big deal, possibly too much to allow a long gone character to do it right as he comes back (which hasn’t even been confirmed officially yet).

That said, given Claude’s training, he’s certainly able to do it. But it would be quite a long shot to explain us how the hell he got in this room, and what were his motivations.

King Mark 04.16.09 at 7:40 pm

@wen

KSA? Never heard of it. Where’s that?

bubbajones 04.16.09 at 8:38 pm

HOLY CRAP PEOPLE! Why is everyone getting so offended? for crying out loud, this is a site for theories, knock off the name calling.

Nick 04.17.09 at 9:12 pm

@bubba: don’t sweat it. If you ignore the childishness, they occasionally stumble upon some insight amid their crudeness and immaturity. Keyword, occasionally.

@tarot: I stand corrected. I missed that claude was mentioned on air this season. That could have been dropping a hint or something. Plus the show’s hurting for ratings, and bringing back a character that has such a vast following of supporters could help them out. Good catch. I love when people have theories that can actually be backed up with something substantial…

thepoopsmith 04.17.09 at 10:11 pm

like my nuts

NextOnHeroes 04.18.09 at 2:56 am
ash217 04.18.09 at 12:54 pm

the shapeshifting ability is awesome and so is sylar, i cant wait

roderick6718 04.19.09 at 1:27 am

if you look at the “nextonheroes” pics i think the electric blast hit nathan and Peter got a chance to touch Sylar and gain all his new abilities and took Nathan place in his office and sylar cut his head open to make him think he killed nathan it was really Peter and claire comes in and re-attach his scalp and he heals. The one think with this theory once Sylar opens out the scalp he will realize it not Nathan that it’s Peter and take his power absorbtion abilitiy then it’s over!!!! because Sylar would figure out how to make it work gain and keep the new abilities and be all powerful, sylar’s empathy ability has to be real……. different from Peter’s

thepoopsmith 04.19.09 at 3:20 am

why would sylar want peter’s power? he already has empathic mimicry(how he got elle’s power). why would he want a weaker version of a power he already has?

roderick6718 04.19.09 at 1:50 pm

i think the person that saves Michah from falling is Monica as St. Joan

youidiots 04.19.09 at 11:46 pm

Take a look at the last couple of pictures with Nathan in a suit with a smug grin on his face. That is Sylar as Nathan after killing Nathan.

Alexx 04.19.09 at 11:52 pm

after rewatching that amazing first episode to volume 3, the second coming. Hiro travels to the future only to witness the following:

future hiro is holding a half of the formula and claims that future ando betrayed him. future Ando says that he didnt and future hiro draws his sword to attack. Future ando shoots him with red lighting and reaches over to take the formula half.

everyone seems to think that ando was bad here but for one thing there is no proof that he actually killed future hiro or betrayed him. as we know sylar can now shapeshift so maybe sylar imitated ando and betrayed hiro in that form.

as to ando wanting the formula, perhaps he wants it to destroy it once and for all (we never saw what happened to the torn up pieces from the end of this volume).

what do you guys thinK?

Swm 04.20.09 at 7:40 am

We do know Ando’s “energy” is fairly lethal from Cold Snap. It’s likely Future Hiro wanted the formula to get his powers back (perhaps to go back in time and stop the future that was currently ripping the Earth apart).

Ando’s betrayal could be anything, but it might stem from him using the formula on himself and then attempting to prevent Hiro from doing the same (both of which we know he did). Quite possibly it is Sylar impersonating Ando, but since he has the lightning power he’d have to have killed Ando first, which is plausible but unlikely (he doesn’t know Ando has a power, and as he says in Volume 1, “What would I want with your brain?”). Ando’s also wearing a Pinehearst pin in said episode, so it’s more likely he’s gone at least slightly bad if he’s working for Arthur/Nathan of that future. That makes the idea that he wants to destroy the formula, also unlikeluy.

Alexx 04.20.09 at 12:42 pm

thanks your really helped clear somethinng up.

th other thing is why didnt claire regenerate the top of her head when sylar cut it off. he had to put it back on her for her to heal….and was her power evolving when she suddenly couldnt feel any pain in volume 3?

jess 04.20.09 at 1:08 pm

sylar already has the shap shifting ability…..

jess 04.20.09 at 1:08 pm

and Swm about the whole adno killing hiro…
well that future has all been changed.. so i dont think it will happen any more

jess 04.20.09 at 1:12 pm

and just so you know.. i actually lokve sylar..
although yeah he os suppose to be the bad guy… he has an awesome personality

and i really really erally really hope that he gets his happy future when he has his child and controls his power and goes good etc :) he was soo cute

is anyone else annoyed at claires annoyness at the moment? just cause she is younger and some pretty blonde :P

thepoopsmith 04.20.09 at 2:41 pm

@jess
sylar needs to stick his dick in claires mouth. that would shut her the fuck up.

F.D. 04.20.09 at 2:46 pm

Sylar’s impersonating Ando would be pretty difficult to achieve. Ando has a really strong asian accent, and they generally speak to each other in Japanese anyway.

It’s one thing to take his face, but it would require some serious acting to totally impersonate him.

Not to mention Sylar has much more lethal powers he could’ve used against Hiro than that red lightning crap.

I’m pretty sure it was the real Ando. Now, did he actually kill Hiro ? He could’ve only knocked him down. It’s Hiro who assumed he murdered him (and ommited to mention his future self charged him with a katana).

F.D. 04.20.09 at 2:55 pm

It seems that in that timeline, Arthur had convinced Ando to work for Pinhearst (he wore a pin). Remember Arthur could manipulate minds. He could’ve persuaded Ando that working for Pinhearst was for the good of humanity (and gave him an injection to convince him) and that Hiro was just a fool. That would be the betreyal Hiro mentionned.

Now, why would it matter if Hiro had the formula now that basically everyone in the world had abilities ? Maybe because powerless Hiro wanted his powers back to fix everything. But then he could just’ve bought or stole a vial since they seemed quite common. I doubt we’ll ever see the actual explanation of this timeline now that the formula is gone.

buster 04.20.09 at 3:13 pm

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Sxlar 04.20.09 at 4:00 pm

Hey Changs and Swm, I have a little scoop about Sylar that may help answer the question of how Sylar could talk to Danko and go up to the rooftop so fast…

There were a few deleted scenes on the Season 2 DVD which featured two unique powers that Sylar took (or tried to take) on his little ‘roadtrip’ leading to Claire’s house in Costa Verde. First of which was a man with impenetrable skin, of which Sylar failed, as naturally, even TK can’t rip open that guy’s skull. Sylar ended up trying to dig out that guy’s brain through the mouth. (Not gonna work, and MAJOR “EWW” there)

The other, however, was a successful steal- Sylar took the ability called “Dynamic Camouflage” from a girl in I-Can’t-Remember-Where. Dynamic Camouflage basically makes the user a walking human Chameleon, blending into his/her surroundings (and copying its characteristics too i think), making them “invisible” to the human eye.

This explained why Sylar was able to do that spooky thing where he was stalking Claire in the house, and when she turned there was no one there. It could very well explain how Sylar did that whole gig in Danko’s car too! I dunno, lemme hear what you guys think… (:

Miracle 04.20.09 at 4:17 pm

@Sxlar

Could Dynamic Camouflage be how Sylar impersonates Nathan at that press conference?

Sxlar 04.20.09 at 4:30 pm

Hi Miracle! (: Nope, dynamic camouflage actually makes you just like a chameleon, shifting the colours and whatnot on your body to match whatever backdrop you’re standing against. Sylar would have had to be standing like RIGHT IN FRONT of Nathan to do such a thing and that would be quite comical if it happened. :D

My guess is that you haven’t seen episode 21/22/23 as yet, so…
Spoiler ahead!
Read on if you don’t mind the spoiler or if you’ve already watched (:

Sylar has taken a new ability, Shapeshifting, as we’ve seen on-screen, from James Martin. This ability enables one to change his/her DNA makeup and cellular composition to match and become any other person of any height, colour, gender or build, at will. Of course, the user has had to have touched the intended shift-subject before he/she can turn into the person. (Example: Sylar touched Sandra Bennet before he shapeshifted into her)

Shapeshifting differs from Illusion (Candice’s ability, Season 1) in that Illusion is a “perceptive” or partial.temporal change. The user alters the area around his or herself to “change reality” or create and illusion. If the user is unconscious or incapacitated, the illusion wears off, as illusion creation requires actual brain focus, much like Matt’s telepathy.

Shapeshifting, however, is a indefinite and one-off change, where a user can stay as the shift-subject for as long as he/she wills to. Meaning Sylar could stay as Nathan for eternity if he wanted to. And as we have seen in another episode, Sylar is able to use other powers while in other human forms (Spontaneous Regeneration, even as Agent Donnor). (:

F.D. 04.20.09 at 5:33 pm

Sxlar, dynamic camo wouldn’t explain how sylar got on the rooftop, much less without even opening and closing the door.

Ryan 04.20.09 at 5:45 pm

Tim Kring and anyone else involved in the show have already stated that anything in the deleted scenes, is nonexistent now. There’s a reason they were deleted, after all. So, Sylar does NOT have camouflage or impenetrable skin.

gotay78 04.20.09 at 5:58 pm

About that power Sylar has, he had it actually since he was 1st introduced in Season 1 and also some sort of regen ability, but I don’t think it was as strong as Claires/Adam’s…1st he was about to make the female FED, Parkman’s partner shoot herself when Matt showed up and shot Sylar multiple times…when Matt goes to attend to his partner to see if she’s alright, you see Sylar stand up from the back ground and when Matt rurns around with his gun and looks up, you see Sylar leg’s going over a 20-30 ft wall…I wondered how he did that then and how he wasn’t broken up like Peter was when they both fell…many of his abilities are unexplained and I guess it’s because he’s taken so many…also, they never even fully explained the Haitan’s power and originally just made it seem you just couldn’t use your abilities around him and not they he has to kind of focus on an individual or radius for it to work…this I never noticed until Arthur almost broke free of his hold and the fact Sylar wasn’t even affected when the Haitan was around because he was weakened from stopping Arthur….interesting….if it is like the future, then the Haitan should be back since he was Claire’s partner…plus, he owes Peter and Nathan for helping him stabilize his region so we’ll see!

thepoopsmith 04.20.09 at 6:13 pm

@gotay
sylar lost all his powers execpt tk when the company gave him the shanti virus, and when sylar was first introduced he wasnt supposed to be a regular character like he is now. many of the abilities he had in season one were supposed to be unknown and were never meant to be explained, kinda like that weird demonic voice he had. (it wasnt edens power, she blew her brains out so he couldnt have it)

Watch full episodes for free 04.20.09 at 8:36 pm

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F.D. 04.20.09 at 9:01 pm

Thanks for the info, but I don’t see webisodes there. :(

It’s a lot of trouble to get a hand on those for non-US people!

newc868 04.20.09 at 11:21 pm

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thepoopsmith 04.20.09 at 11:30 pm

theres better quality episodes on eskimotube.com

irishman22 04.21.09 at 2:12 am

hollyshittt this is nuts i thought nathan was going to die!?! So maybe Hiro will die the last episode? I hope nathan dies still he is kinda pissing me off and peter needs his powers back or i think im going to stop watching next season i been dedicated sens the first season though but idk i’ll see what happens.

sicknick06 04.21.09 at 2:34 am

hiro dosent die, i highghly doubt that, however does nathan die now? we all thought it was going to happen but danko basically rescued him even though he was tazzered along with mohinder. but i am very sceptacle on who is really going to die on the season finale…sucks its a whole week till it happens but i m very much looking foward to it

F.D. 04.21.09 at 3:33 am

Am I the only one to find hilarious how “I Am Sylar” was basically a remake of Psycho with Sylar talking to his mon via shapeshifting?

Irishman22 04.21.09 at 3:37 am

haha i realized that too it was fucked up haha.

Sxlar 04.21.09 at 4:59 am

@ F.D. — I know, I totally don’t find it possible myself, although, it could be some “time lapse” effect that the crew like to use while filming, doesn’t mean that Sylar HAD to have been on the rooftop in seconds or whatever. But still I find it strange. Maybe the bad guys in every show are able to do spooky stuff like that.

@ Ryan — Yeah I know man. Actually I’m not even sure if they came from deleted scenes. It’s just a special segment I found on youtube that shows good ol’ Syl making a few “detours” before he met up with Claire. And I read somewhere that the writers wanted these snippets to explain how he seems more stealthy and spooky in “Villains” (read: gripes from fans saying “How could Sylar have slipped in and out of visibility in Claire’s house!?!?”). Plus, as I mentioned, Sylar didn’t manage to get Impenetrable Skin. He tore the man’s brain out, for pete’s sake. The brain would have been too mushy for him to examine it, lol.

@ thepoopsmith — LOL!!!!

jess 04.21.09 at 6:14 am

has it been told that some is definitely going to die?
or are you just guessing that someone will die cdasue its the end of the season?

jess 04.21.09 at 6:18 am

and anyway…
if anyone dies.. they are just saved about two minutes later by claire
seriosuly everyone is always saved (kinda boring haha)
if it was nathan then claire would heal him up again
and probably if it was most of the other characters too

when was the last time a character actaully died on the show (major character im talking)

=)

Carlo 04.21.09 at 7:11 am

for claire to heal anyone, she would need to inject the person with her blood.

Swm 04.21.09 at 11:41 am

Hey, F.D. Did you laugh when Sylar got the knife in the back of his head by Danko? I recall you talking about a knife appearing out of thin air in the back of Sylar’s head, followed by Claude showing up. The scene with Danko literally mimicked that exactly. I was literally waiting for Claude until I realised we were one episode too early (perhaps).

Speaking of said knife scene, how do you think Sylar was able to pull that thing out of the back of his head? That’s supposed to be the weak spot for immortals, no?

peter man 04.21.09 at 12:40 pm

i think these episodes are stupid because they made Sylar this god that cant be killed and have all the powers…but the only person who can stop him has one simple power……its pointless to watch now..you know whats going to happen. if you disagree…then tell me who can stop sylar now?

Swm 04.21.09 at 1:40 pm

Matt. The Hatian. Hiro. More then likely Peter + Nathan, as that’s what they’ve set up. Tracy…etc etc etc.

“i think these episodes are stupid because they made Sylar this god that cant be killed and have all the powers…”

Now, I find this interesting. Because Peter had more, and sometimes better powers then Sylar for significant periods before he lost them. Peter was as godly then as Sylar is now- he certainly got regeneration much earlier. Were most of Volume 1/2/3’s episodes stupid as well, by your logic?

edmond 04.21.09 at 4:13 pm

By the way, guys and girls, where the f*ck has the Haitan gone ????
I remember a scene where Peter told to the Haitan “Go after Sylar”, and then what !???
Hey, haitan, you’re still looking for Sylar ???? come on man !!

Oh, my god, somebody is sitting in front of me, I known it’s not my wife because she is sleeping upstairs, so who is this ?? My god maybe it’s sylar… oh, she just sliced a piece of cake … delicious, than you sylar…

Seriously I am a bit fed up with all these Sylar centric episodes, where sometimes he is bad (1st season), then he turns good (3rd season with Elle), then bad again, then good (saves Micah), then bad again, then good, then bad, then good, then bad, then good, then bad, then … well, you get the picture.

Let’s eat some cake, I am hungry. Yeah piece of cake.

F.D. 04.21.09 at 4:37 pm

@Swm It was pretty obvious to me that Danko took the shot. And I was glad he pulled it off. I was certain that it would disable every single ability Sylar had. It felt stupid when Sylar rose up though. I hope last episode explains us how the hell he managed to get rid of his “weak spot”.

I watched the show on Global. The preview was different from the one shown on NBC. On this promo you see HRG tell Hiro “Nathan is gone, forever” whereas Hiro seems to almost die on the NBC one. On the Global one we also saw Claire tell Sylar something like “Now that you can die, I’ll make sure about it”. So maybe he lost his regeneration somehow or I just misheard what she said (english is not my main language). I wish I could find the Global trailer. It’ll probably be up on youtube sooner or later.

gotay78 04.21.09 at 5:01 pm

I won’t lie….I’m already pissed and won’t accept whatever BS plot they come up with to my Sylar wasn’t incapacitated from the knife…Claire stabbed him in the same spot at the end of the last volume…What the fuck, did he take a Kung Fu master’s ability from Shaolin Temple and become a fugilist and can move his weak point at will??? I don’t care what they say and this is what people mean that he’s a God and they’ve made everyone else child’s play…Hiro is good because Kring has already confirmed much of next season will be about him and his adventures. I wonder who Parkman compromises that starts to lead him down the dark path? hmmmm…Mohinder perhaps??? or Ando/Hiro since I thought they were all together in a scene with Hiro fainting? I love the show, but Peter needs his powers back and they need to introduce some more villians for the next season to have more battles/duels….Also, they mentioned the reason for the 1961 episode is they will have several episodes next season in that time frame showing the young Pinehearst crew with more details behind the company which means they must’ve come across a young Samson at some point. Sylar is also confirmed so he’s not dying….we’ll another week and we can either be satisfied or disappointed…

gotay78 04.21.09 at 5:06 pm

@F D, WOW, I would love to see that trailer and sounds like baby “touch and go” might’ve turned his power off for a sec allowing someone to get at him. Man, speculation all across the Globe, literally! LOL I think it was Claire peeking when Nathan/Peter were fighting Sylar so that will probably play a big part in her changing…we’ll see!

alexx 04.21.09 at 5:13 pm

‘when was the last time a major character died’

in this volume alone we’ve lost daphne – twice, appearingly tracy, n we know one more is to come. in this season alone, we’ve lost the ones already said plus knox, apparently meradith, possibly the haiten, all of the level 5 guys except flint gorden, arther, the soldier injected with the formula, nikkis death was confirmed,future peter, mory parkman, adam monroe….

think about what you are saying dude adam, mory, arther and knox were the best villains after sylar…and u say no major characters have been killed recently…this is all one season!

Swm 04.21.09 at 5:16 pm

FD, or anyone: Have you got a link for the Canadian (yours) promo? I’d like to see that for myself actually, it looks interesting. Certainly it needs to be explained how he survived that one. Kudos to Danko for being quick with that blade, though.

jess 04.22.09 at 11:41 am

none of the good guys..
but i suppose thats why they are the good guys :P

the haiten isnt dead.. we just havent seen him for a while and daphnie was annoying :P

Nick 04.22.09 at 2:23 pm

For the above conversation about Peter potentially getting killed so that Sylar could acquire his power:

Several weeks back, around the time “Shades of Grey” aired, the writers who do the interview for behind the eclipse let it be known (or at least implied) that Sylar and Peter actually both have the same ability: Empathic Mimicry. Sylar apparently isn’t even aware of this, as during “I Am Sylar” he stated that his “Intuitive Aptitude” was the only ability that was ever truly is. That’s not true at all though, he acquired intuitive aptitude via empathic mimicry. How? By watching his dad (who’s natural ability IS intuitive aptitude) kill his mom.

Confused? Here’s the link, just to prove I’m not shitting you. It’s actually a viewer that poses this question at length, and while they don’t 100% confirm he’s right, they certainly don’t tell him he’s wrong, and imply he’s got the right idea.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20360

alexx 04.22.09 at 8:36 pm

AMAZING THEORY!

in that future in volume 3, sylar is living with his blonde son who is called noah. they are living at claires house with mr. muggles and claires adoptive parents are nowhere to be seen.

if sylar marries claire and they have that son, their is a high chance that claire would want to name him noah and leave mr muggles and her house with her husband while she went off for whatever….it could explain why she was so angry with peter when she found him….

alexx 04.22.09 at 8:43 pm

and by the way nick, that cant be correct or sylar would have been absorbing powers since season 1. peter couldnt control absorbing ted’s radioactive power.

Jaigo 04.22.09 at 9:07 pm

Noah was not Claire’s son in that episode, plus he did think peter was his brother so at that time he would think Claire was his Niece

Swm 04.22.09 at 9:36 pm

Nick…the answer to that question is “What are you doing tonight?” They certainly don’t confirm it, even if they don’t outright deny it. There’s nothing overt in Shades of Gray that confirms Sylar has EM, either. That is NOT an implication that he’s right.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, I don’t think Sylar has that power. Why? Well, what you’re essentially proposing here is that Sylar’s original ability is empathic mimicry and that he absorbed IA from his father. Afterwards the IA suppressed the EM (which it can do, as seen with Peter) until Arthur showed him how to use it again. Correct me if I’m wrong.

The problems with this theory run thus: Does Sylar know he has EM? If he does, then why the hell hasn’t he used it before Volume 3? It makes his gaining abilities a lot easier then ripping people’s heads open. If he doesn’t…well, you’re pushing it there a bit, for me. It’s unlikely someone with an ability that manifests itself at a young age would be totally unaware of it, for me. Especially someone whose known power is to understand how everything works.

Furthermore, there’s another fairly obvious problem. Sylar’s power, even the empathic attributes of it, does not seem to work at all like Peter’s does. Elle and James Martin are the only examples of his empathy, but even from this we can see this difference. Sylar needed to do more work then Peter to empathise with them both times, but that can be attributed to him being a heartless kller.

But, Sylar empathised with Elle both times that he met her, both later when she electrocuted him, and before when he killed Trevor. The latter is very important. If Sylar has EM, and he gains powers in the same way as Peter, why didn’t he absorb Elle’s power at that point? He needs obvious empathy where Peter doesn’t, yes, but he had that then. His ability obviously would have manifisted at that point if he’s supposed to have absorbed IA from Samson. The only answer seems to be that he did, in fact, absorb it but simply didn’t realise it, but again, I find this hard to accept. Especially since absorbed powers through EM tend to trigger automatically- Ted’s ability almost made Peter blow up right away, Sylar was able to use lightning right away (if that is EM, which I doubt), he flew when Nathan flew, turned invisible up[on meeting Claude, etc. Had Sylar absorbed Elle’s power back when they first met, he’d probably have known- Peter certainly seemed to know when he gained a new power, and Sylar understands things much better then he does.

Finally, there’s one more reason why I doubt the idea that Sylar has EM. It’s this:

We reckon we know for certain Samson has IA, right? But I will now propose that Samson actually has EM as his natural ability, and he abosrbed IA from his father, Sylar’s grandfather. This then suppressed his EM and he’s used IA ever since. This is exactly what you are saying about Sylar now, right? Yet you probably don’t believe me when I say Samson has EM. Why, given I’m proposing exactly what you are?

The obvious rebuttal is that we’ve seen Sylar gain powers through empathy, and Samson has not been shown to do so. So I ask this, then: if we learn in Volume 5 that Samson has the same capacity for taking powers through empathy that Sylar does, would you scrap the idea that he had IA and instead start thinking he had EM? I wouldn’t think so.

Sylar has been shown to be able to take abilities through empathy. That is all. We have no conclusive proof that Sylar has empathic mimicry, nor will we until next episode when Peter touches him (in which case he may gain that ability back along with all of Sylar’s). We do not know for certain that he does or does not have empathic mimicry, so stop claiming that we do.

Sxlar 04.23.09 at 4:31 am

Hey Nick and Swm, don’t know if you guys read the Graphic Novels on NBC, but there seems to be something alarming happening between Peter and Sylar that may link to all this “they have the same ability” thing.

Chapter 134 of the Graphic Novels, entitled “One Good Hero”, shows the struggles of Peter, and how he has always been there to “clean up” Nathan’s mess, or always had Nathan ahead of him as a trailblazer, or a competitor of sorts, etc..

You can have a read here
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=134

Towards the end of the GN, Peter is shot by three of those electric nerve bullets that Agents use when hunting specials. Miraculously, Peter awakes from the triple shot and flies off, escaping the agents. Bearing in mind that Peter is still on a “single power” ability, and he only took Nathan’s flight ability, the question now is “How did Peter shake that off?”.

The only other person known to have been “immune” to electric nerve bullets was Sylar, when he was confronted and shot in Samson Gray’s house, and the bullets only made him woozy for a few seconds, before he whooped some agent ass.

How is this possible? It could have a link to that thought about Peter and Sylar having similar or identical powers, and also could TOTALLY explain how Sylar awoke from that knife shot by Danko.

The GN says “To be continued on An Invisible Thread“. I CAN’T WAIT!!! (:<

changs 04.23.09 at 7:18 am

2 questions…
->How come Hiro started bleeding when he tried to stop time at the end?
->and how the hell did Nathan think he was going to prevent sylar from meeting with the president by himself? he couldnt fight him. didnt he at least anticipate sylar attacking him? if that was why he died, im not surprised. he deserved it for thinking that way.

Swm 04.23.09 at 8:05 am

Changs, we don’t know why Hiro was hurt when he uses his ability yet. That’s a new development, at least as far as I know. And Nathan’s not dead yet- Danko got him with those stun guns they’ve been using on all the specials to keep Sylar from killing him.

Sxlar: Hmm, interesting. But let me question some of your points, first.

Sylar was able to throw off the stun darts because of Claire’s ability, not anything innate in himself. Those stun guns are probably tranquilisers, and thus he should be able to heal it out of his system (this would be consistent with him shaking off Samson’s sedation, another tranquiliser, later on). I can’t verify this since Claire was never shot with the same weapons, but it seems more logical then Sylar just being innately more resistant (well, since he lost his abilities to the virus already). Therefore, even if Peter is somehow able to accomplish the same thing, it’s no proof of a link between them. It’s not Sylar’s power that lets him be that way naturally.

As for Peter…I’d have to chalk it up to either a plot hole or dramatic neccessity, sadly. As you said, Peter’s on one ability at a time now- Flight at the moment. It can’t be that he absorbs remnants of abilities he borrows, since he’s never taken Claire’s regeneration since losing his old ability. There shouldn’t be anything in his ability that allows him to do what he did. So rather then think his ability is actually something different because of it, I’d say that it’s not a product of his ability at all. It’s a product of him having an “oh shit, I can’t let this happen” moment.

If this sounds lame, consider that if Peter had been caught there, Nathan probably would have had his head slashed open and Sylar would have become President (which he still may do). Peter knows both of these points, and if your brother being murdered and a psychopath taking over your country isn’t grounds for being able to do what you normally can’t, then I don’t know what is. For this and the fact that it’s most likely Claire’s ability that let Sylar resist the darts, I don’t think that GN is any grounds for them having similar or the same abilities.

Sxlar 04.23.09 at 1:33 pm

Hey Swm, you’ve got a strong point there, and maybe I didn’t explain it further, but yes, Sylar was able to shrug those darts off due to his excellent control of Spontaneous Regeneration, and here’s where we see the real problem- how did Peter do that, without absorbing Claire’s ability?

My guess also goes to the fact that he was reflecting on his life, etc, and to add to the drama they HAD to get him to wake up and go after big brother and all… But that can lead us to another thing… Is Peter getting back his Empathic Mimicry?

This probably goes back to the basic-est of basics of EM, where explained in Season 1. Peter told Claude that in order for him to exhibit a power, he had to feel in a certain way. (Sounds much like a driving force strong enough to wake one from temporary stun or paralysis)

So, this could end the gripes of those who are “demanding” that Peter get back his EM (as much as I think he’s good as he is now), and possibly bringing back the old, emotional Peter that fans came to love or hate in the past two seasons (Well, essentially the Peter that everyone is comfortable with, not the dark, blank and emotion-void Peter that came up in Season 3. :O

Overall, I am PUMPED for “An Invisible Thread”!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! :D :D :D

Swm 04.23.09 at 4:54 pm

The problem with the idea that Peter was tapping into his EM to shrug off the darts is that, while falling and when they go to stick the drip in his nose, he’s thinking about Nathan, not Claire (as we’ve said, the entire novel is about Peter and Nathan). So that doesn’t explain it either. The best option for that would probably be that when Peter first managed to regenerate without Claire around, it was straight after Claude threw him off a building. Coincidently, Peter “regenerates” from the stun darts immediately after a long fall. The dialogue during the fall is also an apt description of what happened up there (”Just gotta fall and let your abilities take care of you” or something like that).

It’s possible he was remembering when Claude threw him off and his regeneration then…but that’s a very long shot for me, especially since we don’t even know Peter has his mimicry back yet. Sadly I think he will get it back eventually, but not yet (most likely next Volume) Perhaps after the battle with Sylar if Sylar does have EM, as some people suggest. I’m just hoping that they explain how the hell Sylar stood up after Danko knifed him in the back of the head…

F.D. 04.23.09 at 5:57 pm

Well the daze could very well had been shaken off by falling on a swimming pool. He was barely able to slow his fall down, but then the cold water can… refresh ideas?

I don’t think it was related to any ability at all.

Sylar killing Nathan to become president is beginning to be doubtful because it’s too predictable. Actors/writers repeated in interviews that the finale’s death is a shocker. Nobody would be surprised to see the “Nathan dies and Sylar takes his place” scenario.

The hint is “Male character, and the killer also partially dies”. What does that mean?
1) Sylar kills Nathan and “becomes” him. We won’t see Zach back before a long while, because he’ll stick hard to hiding behind Nathan’s skin. We will actually figure it’s not the real Nathan only several episodes into next season.

2) Sylar now has multiple personalities or something… could he kill “Sylar” and become “Gabriel Gray” again by ripping his own powers off ? Too psychological (and unlikely) if you ask me.

3) Sylar kills whoever, but Matt messes with Sylar’s head. Sylar is in a weakened psychological state right now, and we’ve seen Maury tap into people’s fear and anguish to make them believe their nightmares were true. Sylar doesn’t quite dies, but Matt sends him into Coma like Maury/Arthur did in the past, making his very first victim.

F.D. 04.23.09 at 6:53 pm

I’m just hoping that they explain how the hell Sylar stood up after Danko knifed him in the back of the head…

And I’m hoping it’s not something retarded like being able to move his weak spot around since he can shapeshift.

Maybe he has evolved regeneration up to the point of disabling the “sweet spot”. H.R.G. believes the glass shard melted at primatech, but glass melts at what, over 4k degree? Sylar’s body would’ve been crumbled to ashes like Adam way before his neck was clear. Either Sylar was helped, or he just did the same thing there when everyone left the building.

I’m suspecting that Sylar will tell Danko “Surprise, I’m not vulnerable at that spot at all, I just played possum at primatech and everyone fell for it!”

Claire’s regeneration is disabled with the neck. Arthur required a bullet in his head (they made no mention whatsoever about his neck). Adam said to Peter in S2 that you can’t get up after being shot in the head… but H.R.G got revived after Mohinder’s headshot.

Regeneration isn’t a very spectacular power. The only way to make it interesting is keeping some mystery around it… but they might’ve pushed it a bit too far in last episode. If Sylar got up, then what’s keeping Arthur from coming back to life now that the Haïtian isn’t disabling his regeneration?

Joefish 04.24.09 at 1:05 am

Just a thought, based on random ideas….but
we know that peter and hiro lack their full powers, and that they are (possibly) the most powerful good guys going. We also know that someone else is meant to die and that powers tend to manifest in times of great emotional stress. I just thought the two may be linked, and that death of a loved one (ando or nathan, maybe) could cause the powers to re-emerge.
But, like I said, just a thought

Sxlar 04.24.09 at 2:28 am

@ F.D. — Good point there! Additionally… I think the trailers and other spoilers and stuff have probably *partially* explained it…

I read SOMEwhere, I think on The Odi or something, that Sylar goes after Claire, and he proposes to her or something (giving the possibility that the “I Am Become Death” future may indeed come true, little Noah’s mom being Claire Bennet herself), and in the trailers, Sylar says to Claire: “You ever stop to think how much we have in common?”..

Combine this with the fact that when Sylar was digging through Claire’s brain, he spotted “no nerve endings”, and that he “couldn’t kill her even if he wanted to”, cause she “can never die”, and “neither can he”… I’m guessing Sylar copied Claire’s augmented ability exactly, giving him virtual immortality. (She noticed she couldn’t feel much pain then, right?)

Previously, Claire would die with a shot, a branch, or shard of glass to the head or whatever. But we haven’t seen anything THAT close happen to her in Season 3, have we? So it’s *possible* she may not be able to die either. (She just doesn’t know it, but since Spontaneous Regeneration is her primary ability, she just HEALS, lol)

As for Peter and Arthur’s regenerative ability, as mentioned, Peter’s regenerative ability was absorbed Empathically, but only first by being around Claire. This, combined with the fact that he doesn’t *completely* understand every extension of his powers, may add up to explain how he is still vulnerable to head-related deaths. Arthur absorbed this ability from Peter. Bear in mind that Arthur’s ability simply enables him to absorb powers, though he may not fully understand these powers and their extensions (unlike Sylar’s IA).

Maybe you can see it as Arthur and Sylar as PCs, and while Arthur simply copies entire folders, Sylar opens each and every folder to view every file stored inside (and possibly more sub-folders inside these folders).

Arthassia 04.24.09 at 5:12 am

At Sxlar….

I’ve read the GN too & I wondered how he got away unscathed after being shot by the agents. The only possible explanation is that he’s got EM back & have absorbed Claire’s power too.

Why is it that he didn’t lose his flying abilities when he touched his mom? Is it because he touching her jacket? Must it be a skin to skin contact?

A lot of holes. >_<

Swm 04.24.09 at 10:02 am

Arthassia, Peter can choose whether to borrow other people’s powers or not. It’s not automatic like it originally was with Tracy, so it’s not actually a plot hole. Peter just thought flight would be more useful then his mum’s power. (which is true).

I’m actually leaning more towards FD’s explanation of the GN at the moment, that those darts are basically tranquilisers and a faceful of cold water probably just woke him right back up. Remember, Mohinder was able to fight off being stunned during one of his captures for a while as well, also under extreme circumstances (if memory serves, it was so Matt could get away). It’s much less convoluted then him somehow regaining EM just to get away from a few henchmen.

alexx 04.24.09 at 9:37 pm

OMG PETER ONLY ABSORBS THE ABILITY OF THE PERSON HE TOUCHES IF AND ONLY IF HE WANTS TO! he needs to try holding onto more than just one at a time…

REGENETATION

claires blood brought noah bennet and mya back to life. the same would work if it was given to dl’s body or nikki…even linderman. if it was sparkeled on adam’s dust who knows….

however as we see in angela’s dream in season 3, knox rips claired head off and she doesnt appear to heal, perhaps if her head was reattached??? or maybe she didnt have her ability in this dream…

to kill someone who can regenerate propperly, you have to ‘haiten-kill’ them or rid them of their ability. look at adam and arther….

Nick 04.27.09 at 7:09 pm

“OMG PETER ONLY ABSORBS THE ABILITY OF THE PERSON HE TOUCHES IF AND ONLY IF HE WANTS TO! he needs to try holding onto more than just one at a time…”

Not quite. Close though. Remember, Peter gained the ability to fly at the end of villains without touching Nathan. He flew through the fire to rescue him. He can obtain powers simply by being in close proximity.

Strawn 04.27.09 at 7:29 pm

@Nick

Hate to do this to ya, but you’re wrong. If you watch the episode again, you’ll notice he runs into the fire and tackles Nathan. He never actually flies until AFTER grabbing Nathan. Head to youtube and watch it agin, you’ll see what I mean.

nick 05.01.09 at 2:36 am

still doesn’t mean he HAS to touch the person, just means he hasn’t fully figured out his powers again. If the formula peter’s injected himself with really gave him back his original power, then he does possess the capacity.

alexx 05.01.09 at 5:41 pm

well after the finali, now we know that he has to touch them, otherwise getting sylar’s power would have been easy….

nick 05.02.09 at 2:45 am

@alexx we never saw that fight though, so we don’t know that he touched him to get the power. I’m beginning to think they purposely held off showing that fight until next season just to keep us wondering about this very issue.

alexx 05.02.09 at 9:06 am

in the formula future we know that sylar exploads after his osn is killed. that could be what hiro saw when he went there…btw where was hiro in that future??
then again it could have been another guys power…

sk74 05.05.09 at 9:26 am

I’d like to see what would happen if Peter tried to take two powers at the same time by touching two people simultaneously.

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