CLAIRE LEARNS THE TRUTH BEHIND THE ATTACKS AND SYLAR TAKES MATTERS INTO HIS OWN HANDS
Claire is determined to get to the bottom of the attacks; H.R.G. realizes he may be the source of Claire’s troubles; Peter’s new ability is the perfect fit for his job; Sylar’s battle at gaining full control of Matt’s body escalates.
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New trailer for Monday – looks like Nathan is going all Exorcist-y:
http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2009/11/episode-4×10-thanksgiving-new-monday.html
Also NBC have confirmed that “HEROES moves to Mondays (9-10 PM ET) starting January 11; two-hour event set for Monday, January 4 (8-10 PM ET)”.
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So the iatus won’t be more than 1 month? That’s not bad.
Sylar “What’s for diner?”. Damn Angela and Pete are in for ride.
we know that nathan is out. but if sylar survives what will stop him from turning on angela, peter, hrg and matt? the only thing i can think of is if nylar combines with sylar thus making him a better person.
i wonder how this next episode is going to end? considering that they want as many viewers to return nxt year as necessary….
maybe it will be sylar coming out and killing? or at least preparing to kill? will we see mohinder and matt next ep or is this a benner/petrelli dinner…and surely claire should be with the petrelli’s? she was at the start of fugatives…
so first episode back is gunna be a double huh, well i wonder how its gunna go from here.
save the cheerleader save the world.
1st half of season 1 saved the cheerleader and you know what happened from there.
i wonder what it will be like now.
half season gone, sylar finally back in business, mohinder’s back, parkman’s free, peter is gunna be set on his revenge (hopefully), as for hrg, tracy and claire…with the exception of tracy, they arent really be that interesting at moment, just my opinion.
it looks like the second half is gunna be immense.
I’ve got to admit, while Claire’s storyline has been the least interesting yet again, it hasn’t actually bored me, and I haven’t found her quite as annoying this season! Maybe coz HRG has been an integral part of her story, and we’ve actually seen the cheerleader handle herself quite well (against Becky) instead of whingeing all the time… Yeah, she’s still going on about the normal life she craves, but it’s not as bad as before.
For a second, tho, I was hoping that Tracy would answer all of our prayers when she froze her by giving her the Knox treatment (just a push, Tracy, just a push…
) but it wasn’t to be. Hmmm… possible future idea if Claire (or even Sylar – or indeed anyone with Regen) needs to be written out?
Another thing that struck me as odd. Does anyone else think that maybe there’s a reason why Sylar took the Disintegration power from that old guy last season?
I mean, Angela ‘fed’ him by giving him Bridget Bailey on a platter, and Clairsentience has proved to be an essential ability since then, especially leading up to the end of last Season and this entire Sythan chapter. The same can be said of shapeshifting. It seems odd that Sylar would get such a destructive power like Disintegration for a random – or no apparent – reason, and it hasn’t been used yet… it’s as if we’re supposed to forget about it. I’m just waiting for the big SURPRISE!!!
Oh yeah… and that’s another way to get rid of a Regen.
Seriously, if Peter ever wanted to destroy Sylar, he just needs to find and copy THAT ability from him (Disintegration Snap). But if Sylar ever recalled that ability, it’s all over!
Sh*t… imagine if “Nathan”/ Sythan clicked his fingers (say, if he’s trying to remember something) and activated it by accident!
Sythan: “Pete… what’s Mom’s name again?”
Peter: “You’ve forgotten Mom’s name, Nathan?”
Sythan: “Yeah, I haven’t quite been myself lately…” [starts to pace around the room]
Peter: “No sh*t Sherlock! Well, it’s…”
Sythan: “Don’t tell me… It’s on the tip of my tongue…”
Peter: [Crosses his arms and stares at Nathan with suspicion]
Sythan: “It’s… c’mon… c’mon… [click]… it’s… [click, click]… Andrea… [CLICK!]… ANGELA! Mom’s name is Angela!”
Peter: …..
Sythan: [Turns around] “Pete? Pete, where are you”
Peter: [Starts to swirl around the room...]
Sythan: [cough cough] “Pete?”
I mean, Angela ‘fed’ him by giving him Bridget Bailey on a platter, and Clairsentience has proved to be an essential ability since then, especially leading up to the end of last Season and this entire Sythan chapter. The same can be said of shapeshifting. It seems odd that Sylar would get such a destructive power like Disintegration for a random – or no apparent – reason, and it hasn’t been used yet… it’s as if we’re supposed to forget about it. I’m just waiting for the big SURPRISE!!!
thought about that earlier, its a power we have seen twice before, except the most effective was in season 1.
it is weird, he didnt kill flint, knox, puppet guy, metallic guy, echo…for their abilities…he didnt even take meradiths, but he takes tht guys one!?
@ alexx
You’ve just baffled me… when have we seen this power twice before? (Disintegration)
Ah, you must be thinking about Zane Taylor’s power, the artist from season 1… am I correct? That wasn’t quite the same as disintegration tho… I think it was called ‘Melting’ or something like that – very technical name, huh?
While it was similar in the way that both abilities break down the molecules of an object, the Melting power seems to WEAKEN the bonds between molecules which liquifies the object, leaving a puddle… whereas Disintegration seems to completely DESTROY the bond, thus atomising the object into dust.
(Did I just say ‘thus’?)
Can’t think of the second time ur talking about tho. Care to enlighten me?
OK, so Melting is another way to off Claire… sorry, I mean a Regen
– as long as it affects organic matter (i.e. living tissue) in the same way… it might only be useful for getting rid of old toasters lol!
So that’s three abilities so far that could take, er, a Regen out of the picture for good. This is becoming a bit of a hitlist now lol!… I’m tempted to name it (maybe ‘Slay The Cheerleader, Save The Show’?)
I don’t dislike her THAT much, honest…! I guess I’m just feeling a bit evil right now
(P.S. Please keep your suggestions comin’)
@ sk,
ok season 1 zane taylor, ur right was differ power though similar and cooler.
sylar took a kid with him that liked to melt things was the 1st time then.
@ killing claire topic.
soo many ways.
- blow off her head has always been suggested but never done, we saw knox do it in a dream but didnt see whether she grew it back or not.
- timetravel back and take a shantivirus to inject into her…teleport her to the moon 1st so that she doesnt infect everyone.
- volcano. i dont think she could heal quickly enough….can she come back from particles?
- make someone like arther absorb her power from her.
- NOT MELTING SHE COULD HEAL…
wait a second. in 5YG she survived a nuclear explosion, count out the volcano idea and the melting idea then….
i really hope that sylar finds a way to access his old powers as he did in season 3 in that future. it was of my favourite episodes n i LOVED how he lost control at the end and exploaded. if he could get his old powers back, peter could get his old power back, hiro could be permenantly healed, charlie could be brought back…
WOW HEROES WRITERS SURE LIKE PISSING OFF THE FANS..huh?
@ alexx
“sylar took a kid with him that liked to melt things was the 1st time then.”
Ah, got it! That was Luke… again, a different ability. He was able to emit microwaves, but the effects of this ability can vary depending upon what he uses it on. Basically microwaves directly heat up the moisture in an object – that’s why they are quicker at ‘cooking’ food (or at least at re-heating them, as they don’t quite cook like normal heat). So if used on a living thing (person, animal) the blood would bubble and boil inside first, before you see any skin blistering… nice. That’s why you get some movies where, for instance, they shove a cat/ Gremlin in the microwave and it explodes after a few seconds (don’t try this at home… go to a mates house instead
). Certain plastics might melt if they can’t handle the heat of the liquid/ substance inside (which is why you confused it with Melting which you confused with Disintegration), and some ceramics might shatter – so the container has to be microwavable. A mug of hot drink would simply get too hot to hold. Some substances might catch fire, some would just shatter from the intense heat. Metal is a no-no as it reflects the microwaves to an extent.
I think Luke probably preferred to practice his power on things that would melt, like plastics – he was a bit strange and struck me as twisted, probably his equivalent to pulling the legs off insects! You can imagine him sitting in his room looking in fascination at the way his mum’s favourite figurine just turns to sludge… with hundreds of half-melted and shattered objects around him.
You have to wonder, what inner desire would have made him manifest THAT ability? Did he have a craving for ready meals or something?
” killing claire topic… soo many ways. ”
Hey, alexx, it looks like ur a few steps ahead of me on this already lol! Bear in mind tho, if she ever does get offed, the topic of CB is gone FOREVER!!!
IMO Zane’s Melting – or even Luke’s Microwaving – isn’t out of the question, especially if used on the brain. The brain is needed for powers to work… melt it into a puddle, or flash fry it, and there is nothing left to control or direct the ability.
sorry to ruin ur happiness sk, but doesnt cb live on in sylar now? if he has her the ability to use her ability because he now permenantly knows how it works, can his blood adjust to how hers works too? does he have cb? it doesnt really amtter because the writters will never use it again…:(
@ sk , the Destruction power is a different one to Lukes microwave, and the other melting power. This is a third type of ability sylar got from the old guy, who just by thinking could destroy items into smaller atomised particles…. This was the ability from Tom Miller character in the “I am Sylar” episode.
guys, you have forgotten who arthur petrelli killed adam monroe, who was also a regen, in S3. i suppose the same could be done to claire/sylar?
im sorry i meant ‘how’ and not ‘who’. huge heroes fan
really wished they hadn’t killed nathan off. its hard to say goodbye to him after his selfless act in the S1 finale.
Disintegration snap isn’t the only destructive ability Sylar hasn’t displayed on the show yet. Don’t forget sound manipulation.
In a graphic novel he literally skinned an opponent by grabbing him and yelling at his face.
It could certainly be interesting to see Peter copy either of those and blow Sylar up… that would at least make his regen kind of awkward to activate.
NBC are becoming more and more aggressive with their previews… it’s almost shocking how bad they hand huge spoilers in their own promos.
http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/ has another NBC promo featuring Sylar’s melodramatic comeback at the Petrelli’s diner.
Seems to me that Sylar decides to not kill Angela and Peter right off the bat, but perhaps instead try to turn the situation to his advantage somehow? We need to keep in mind Sylar had ambitions when he killed Nathan. Tonight’s episode looks very promising!
Woah! Looks like I got a few replies to make, so here goes…
@ alexx
“sorry to ruin ur happiness sk, but doesnt cb live on in sylar now?”
I would have to say No… I’m sure it was confirmed that Peter’s blood didn’t have the same properties as Claire’s even tho he still had Claire’s power at the time (in S2). I would have to say the same goes for Sylar, even tho he has IA and can understand the ability better.
But who knows? Maybe he can somehow bypass the passive nature of the ability – in other words, trigger the Regen power consciously – and temporarily cause his blood to manifest those properties… It’s a stretch, but this IS Sylar we’re talking about. On a scale of Convenient Plot Devices, it would be up there with ‘moving the sweet spot’ lol! Seems this guy can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants (courtesy of the writers)
@ trader
Cheers, that’s what I was saying to alexx, but you summed it up neatly… I had forgotten his name tho
@ Dushyanth
No, I hadn’t forgotten Arthur. But I didn’t mention him coz Adam only died the way he did coz of his natural age. His immortality was explained as ” his ability keeping his cells in equilibrium… his cells are dying and being regenerated at the same rate, which is why he doesn’t age”. Take his ability away and his cells are just rapidly dying, no regeneration… and at 400-something years old, he just crumbled to dust.
BUT… you do have a point. Claire wouldn’t crumble, BUT when she lost her power during the Eclipse, she did die from that wound… Coz she’s had her ability all her life, she hasn’t naturally developed any antibodies against any infections, etc. So the healing aspect to her ability can be seen as the ultimate universal antibody… VERY, VERY powerful, but it’s all she’s got. If she loses that, her immune system could practically be seen as non-existent, and IMO she could become vulnerable to (die from) anything.
With Sylar, he obviously is a different case to Claire, his body went thru the normal process of development thru childhood, so he would just lose the ability to heal/ regenerate… which would leave him vulnerable to physical harm again.
So yeah… I guess Arthur (or a power stealer) and that particular type of Eclipse could go onto the list… call it Power Deletion. Good call
@ F.D.
I did forget about Sound Manipulation. Hmmm… that would be a good one too, imagine if Peter screamed into Sylar’s ear to destroy his brain? That SHOULD work, but since the sweet spot has been moved to we-don’t-know-where, would it? Can’t see anyone regenerating if they’re brainless, but I repeat… this is Sylar the human-god here…
@ sk, u have mentioned this word a number of times now, what do you mean by Regen? sorry but im just a little confused.
claire only got her ability when she was pushed into that wall by her friend, daphne got hers when she lost the ability to walk. invisblble girl beccy = same stroy
so if you took 10 specials with that genetic code but their power hadnt developed yet and put
Claire’s abilty actually manifested first when HRG and Claude stormed into Meredith’s apartment for a bag and tag.
Meredith blowed up and HRG “rescued” baby Claire who wasn’t scorched one bit.
I however wouldn’t be so prompt to dismiss the idea of Sylar’s blood being able to heal. Rapid Cell Regeneration works on a cellular level, not consciousness. The only reason they’re probably never gonna use it is that it would be too lame.
to finish my sentence from above,
if you took say 10 babies or teens with the genetic code and told them that in 10 minutes they were gunna die from the guns stuck to the walls….i dont know…okay bad example but u could try to stress people into producing the power which u want them to have…
@ kerry and even everyone.
kerry’s video back up my theory that charlie isnt coming back because the actress works on another show. we having her fate pending in the balance so if they choose to kill her on the other show, we may get her back, but otherwise guys….i just hope that they conclude it for once.
Promo pic’s from an upcoming unknown episode (bloody Sylar & running Claire):
http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-set-pics-of-claire-running-and.html
@alexx
huh ?
…video…?!?!
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alexx is refering to Oka’s interview on odi-blogspot.
He remains very vague about Charlie, while trying to mess us up saying “I wouldn’t quite say Nathan’s… I mean, Pasdar’s involvement with the show is over”
Or something like that.
Pasdar is also having a “meet and greet” somewhere at Nov 30th. Perhaps will know more about what’s going on then.
i CANT UNLOCK THE PAGE – WHAT CAN I DO ?????
@ alexx
Regen = REGENerators… just the abbreviated term I made up for people with Rapid Cellular Regeneration, and it can refer to the REGENeration ability itself. It distinguishes them from Healers (such as Linderman and Hiro’s mum, etc) coz the two abilities work in different ways.
@ F.D.
True, it would make more sense that Claire’s ability manifested at that point when I think about it… she might not have been actually born with it, but she was very young when that incident happened.
But as for Sylar’s blood… I would think that similar rules apply as they did when Peter had the power, and I’m pretty sure it was said that his blood couldn’t heal. As I said above tho, if they wanted to they could always write it in where Sylar is able to consciously access the passive (automatic) aspect of the Regen ability thru IA, keeping it ’switched on’ as it were, coz it’s an ability that seems to only kick in when it needs to – it can’t usually be consciously activated like, say, TK or Electricity or even Flight. That’s what I meant by “trigger the Regen power consciously”… in other words, mentally control it and keep it active as opposed to passive, therefore maintaining a state where his blood has healing properties… possibly.
WOW, great ep and I guess I was right FD, they are having some kind of struggle for the body shifting back and forth though it may still be happening in the mind…I had a feeling NAthan’s being in the body so long would eventually affect Sylar attacking people he loves…Seems Peter is hell bent now on finding a way to save his brother and maybe as we’ve seen my friends is where he will search for the body insertion ability or maybe go to Samuel for help?? You know Samuel is full of promises and how was Peter beating the shit out of him in next weeks’ preview?? Wonder if he brought the Haitan to even the playing field a bit or goes to Rene and takes his ability if can be taken?
Man, this is getting good and Samuel killed Joseph as we all suspected and his power is no joke! And from Joseph’s words, we can suspect the painting we saw of the planet creaking up is Samuels’ power magnified! Joseph said he could move mountains and cities literally and that is crazy! Still wondering WHEN Peter will get his abilities back, Please Kring, It’s almost two seasons now and I hope this isn’t the Peter we’ll have forever…it’s too annoying watching him not be able to fight the big battles anymore and regardless if Sylar can heal, it would be good to see him shoot a flame or using Tracy’s ability which he took and beat his ass for a little while….Give Pete his powers back! Don’t like that I had to watch Sylar power up all of S3/V2 while PEte “improvised” and now this fucker has his body back and PEte is still helpless…Come on, hopefully something happens soon, but regardless, can’t complain about the overall season as it has been really good with balance.
@FD, funny thing is, that idea of Sylar not being able to attack the Petrelli’s I took from Dragon Ball Z with Majin Buu!
In case you never watched the animation, there was a similar point in a series where a villian merged with a his good self for more power, but couldn’t hurt certain characters because the good part he merged with had feelings and wouldn’t allow him to kill them of course, until he purged him out…I thought it would be a similar scenario which it seems to mirror what will happen. I hope Pete finds a way to save Nathan and maybe there is still hope for him in next season maybe…if not, good while it lasted and Pasdar did a terrific job with Nathan.
I interpret this situation more like there’s still a fight for control over the body, than a subconscious part of Nathan keeping him from killing his family. The fact that Nathan took over and flew off to protect them supports this, IMO.
What I found strange is that I expected Angela to be more emotive about Peter going at Sylar. She should’ve gone “I just lost one son, I don’t want to lose another. You’re staying here.” or something.
@sk damn nice call on Peter copying Rene’s ability (if it is possible at all). Or at least bring him around to even the field like you said. Are we going to get a powerless Peter vs powerless Sylar fight? That sounds both intriguing and hilarious, especially considering the preview showing us Peter nailing Sylar down with a nail pistol, and the picture featured on odi-blogspot showing Sylar with a nail in the eye.
I think either the haitian is involved, or Nathan uses Sylar’s IA or access his memory in order to figure where he moved his damn vulnerable spot. If he moved it behind his left eye then perhaps Peter will be able to control him. We didn’t see Peter nail him but we heard Sylar scream like it hurted A LOT, and it’s not natural of him. That preview reminded me of the scene where HRG slits Sylar’s throat. My hopes aren’t high for Nathan, but I sure hope his departure will coincide with a neutering of Sylar. He’s been long due for some toning down.
And guys, let’s move to the new thread. This one is taking forever to load.
@ gotay
“I hope Pete finds a way to save Nathan and maybe there is still hope for him in next season maybe…if not, good while it lasted and Pasdar did a terrific job with Nathan.”
Gotay, are u going on the assumption that Nathan’s ‘death’/ Pasdar ‘leaving’ could be one big massive foiler? If so, I’m with you on that one – I’ll only believe it when I see it! Partly coz Nathan is the Comeback King of Heroes
(Claire definitely takes after her bio-Dad… hard to kill lol!) but also, it still seems strange to me that they would reveal such a major death so soon, and in the way they did. And without the info we were fed, most of us would probably assume that Peter is gonna save Nathan so what better way to keep us off-track until the surprise? Still, anything could happen…
Agree, here’s the link
http://www.heroestelevision.com/episode-4×11-preview/
And please email me the links of spoilers/rumors worth mentioning ( you discussed ) so I can put it on post.
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