Heroes has promised us no time travel in this volume. Still, there are several ways Daphne (played by Brea Grant) could remain alive ( via TVGuide )
- It was all a dream.
- She used her super-speed to dodge the bullets, then faked her death.
- They just do the time travel thing after promising not to.
What do you think, any theories ?
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Ok my idea is that she is a speedster, remember what she said something that happens in one second takes an hour to her so hears the thing she gets shot the first time by suprised but was so fast she dodge the rest that were coming cause remember she only got shot in the shoulder at first.
Well maybe she just survived being shot, that would make sense
- Mabye Ando’s powers did something to her
- Maybe it wasn’t her
- Just to lame, that Parkmann was so upset about the picture were Daphne is getting shot. When she met him, he should be more aware and fast, because they are both in the same place were the drawing is.. So just lame…
He should know better…
You make a good point lol he was the one who drew the pic, he knew it was going to happen instead of standing there talking they he should have bombshelled their butt out of there.
Considering she was only hit in the shoulder, I’d be surprised if she WAS dead …..
Amen. Leave your lady for dead without even checking her pulse. True love.
maybe Claire’s blood splatted on her…i mean she was standing infront of Daphne when that rain of bullets came down on her.
OOO….iSay….i like that little theory
I like the Claire’s blood spatter theory, but more likely it’s that Daphne was only wounded.
However, I think she’s dead. She may appear in later episodes in flashback (a common Heroes staple, every volume has a flashback ep) or in Parkman’s mind. The reason I think she’s really dead is because Nathan tells his new boss that they only have 1 prisoner (Tracy). If Daphne somehow survived being shot, wouldn’t they have taken her into custody as well?
Ok, Daphne is not dead. Reason being because Daphne and Ando figured out that Hiro was still alive because Ando kills him in the future, and guess what they were right. Hiro was still alive. Having said that, she’s not supposed to die until Sylar blows up Costa Verde in the future and she runs back to Parkman.
I have two ideas on how she survived.
A. She pulled a “Hiro” and put on a bulletproof vest that burst blood everytime a bullet hits the vest.
B. The theory on Claire’s blood.
Claire’s blood splatter makes sense to me, plus if her body started accelerating, wouldn’t that include speed-healing as well?
Maybe they left her for dead, so she had to wait, then she couldn’t find the boys, so she went somewhere else safe. but… then we already know Danko has her hostage, doesn’t he? Maybe he has her, but never told Nathan? He’s not the type of guy who likes to share his toys, is he?
ok first off that theory about ando killing hiro was wrong one because the future changed when “HIRO TORE UP THE FORMULA!” secondly pinehearst is completely over with and not only that the forumla was destroyed and ooooo lets not forget SYLAR KILLED ELLE so how is he supposed to have a child again???? exactly but… not only that peter doesnt have the same ability so thats another not possible reaction to what happened in the future we have seen the future change so many times and now the future has changed again so no daphne is still alive but another thoery than yours lol sorry for bagging on you
maybe Daphne got a healing power. Her powers healed her disability.. well its just a thought. I actually quite like the blood splatter theory
i do like the blood splatter idea too but lol its too far off a leaf lol
She’s just wounded – matt didn’t check her pulse, just assumed she was toast. Danko has her somewhere – I think Brainlock’s right about that. The blood spatter theory is too far fetched, even for Heroes.
But Claire’s blood was used by the company to heal people.
It is not that far off that Nathan would use any extra left over.
If it is even Nathan who has Daphne.
Either way I just hope she is alive.
maybe the bullets didn’t kill her and she got captured? dumbasses
maybe matt made them think that they shot daphne because he knew it was coming i know its a long shot but its possible although daphne isn’t a very good character any way
Hello guys? Matt got shot four times in the chest in season 1 and survived. People get shot and survive all the time. There is a stir at the moment as Kristin over at E! is spreading her shit again, saying that Daphne is 100% dead yet Brea Grant herself says different.
However, if people want to get technical it’s Daphne’s ability that kept her alive. Note before that the producers mentioned her ability will have healing properties in the future. If she can move her cells so fast, she can also heal faster than a normal human being, meaning she would heal the wounds before they kill her.
matt could have told daphne to play dead(telepathy)then matt made them think that they shot her and then they captured her when she’s playing dead
the blood had to be injected first of all.
it just doesnt heal if it splatters.
i.e
injecting into HRG and him being healed.
injecting into nathan (from adam)
i have to agree on the “just wounded” looks like she got hit in the shoulder area and maybe went down from the shock but there was too much going on and they all ran away to see if she is still conscious or not.
the hunter probably took her away and they made sure she survived.
or she was just conscious enough to speed away somewhere.
lawlz.
Well, I saw them shoot some of our HEROES with tranquilizer dart guns, so I have to assume that that’s what they shot Daphne with, instead of bullets! Matt does believe she is dead, though.
maybe she can move so fast she can create copies or illusions of herself … either that or she can just take a bullet lol…
OK, let’s just make this clear… to everyone that still thinks that the Exposed Future that we saw in Villains will come about… IT HAS CHANGED!
Yes, it’s possible that Pinehearst could be rebuilt. Yes, it’s possible that Daphne could somehow end up working for them again. Yes, it’s possible that Molly (who was adopted by Matt and Daphne in that future) could somehow get her ability back, although it would be extremely unlikely since the Catalyst for the formula no longer exists – unless there is another person who holds a new Catalyst, and I understood it to be something that is passed on through generations, so when it’s gone it’s gone. (The reason I brought Molly into it, for those who don’t know, is because Arthur stole her power to find Claire and Hiro in the past so now she has no abilities, but in the Exposed Future she still had her ability which they used to find Peter in Costa Verde.)
All of the above could feasibly still come about, except for the final piece of the jigsaw… Knox is dead! Unquestionably, no mistaking it, there’s no coming back from that one! Unless Knox was really a liquid metal Terminator, there’s NO WAY that he could live through being frozen and shattered by Tracy… agreed? (And if they try to say he was cloned, or he’s one of a set of triplets, etc etc I REALLY WILL give up on this show, coz after Daphne ‘time travelling’ it would just be too stupid!)
So if we can all agree that Knox no longer exists, he’s not going to be teaming up with Daphne/ working for Pinehearst (or anybody, for that matter)… Therefore the Exposed Future, as we saw it, will not happen.
Remember also, due to the Butterfly Effect, one person’s choices and actions could have vast repercussions as time goes on… so if you remove one person (ie Knox) from the picture, the outcome of situations that he would have otherwise been a part of will be affected, which effectively means that the future will be different without him… For instance, if Sylar/ Gabriel still ends up with a son in the future (another thing that could happen but might not) I’d be very surprised if Knox will be around to cause little Noah’s death and make Sylar go nuclear, know what I mean? And if Sylar doesn’t go BOOM!, Costa Verde doesn’t get nuked by him, and Daphne doesn’t end up dead from trying to outrun a blast that won’t exist… OK, I think I have made my point as clear as I can now lol
I’ve got the perfect, simple theory: She survives the gun shot wounds in the shoulder.
Ta-da! There are many people who can survive being shot in the shoulder. I’m sure Daphne was pretending to be dead, even though Matt was having a psycho-freak out because he thought she was dead. I guess it was for the best that he thought her dead? I don’t know, but Daphne’s character was pretty neat, so I hope she manages somehow.
And I like the blood splatter thing, though the writer of Heroes could be a little more creative than that? They usually think up the ideas where we’re all gasping with surprise, so I’m sure they’ll pull something off that none of us never thought of.
correction: *none of us ever thought of
Daphne dodge the bullet and faked her own death…
seriously though, She can move so fast when Hiro stoppped time to talk to him in the beginning episode of the season
Oh yeah, someone suggested that Matt told Daphne told play dead via telepathy… sorry mate, but Matt definitely thinks that Daphne is dead (he wants revenge not justice, remember?). I think that Daphne just got wounded, she was lucky. I do like the theory that her acceleration powers can work in a way that makes her heal faster, it does make sense…
this could keep going for forever.
sk74 has it.
any future we have seen is out of the question due to many of the events that have already happened.
no blood splatter…just surviving a wound.
and they were regular guns because the same shooter shot his teammates.
I really don’t think Matt and Daphne had time to plan anything like playing dead or an illusion. You could tell he really thought she was dead by how he made that one soldier turn on the other. In one of the upcoming episodes, the synopsis says that he thinks she’s dead so he takes a dark turn. Another episode says that he goes to rescue her from whoever is holding her hostage. So i guess he spazzes out a bit and then finds out that she’s not dead (maybe from HRG next week) and then goes off to get her.
She did get shot more than once but, as someone mentioned, Matt survived 4 shots to the chest.
I think REBEL could be Peter’s Former Irish girlfriend (can’t remember her name.).
LOL it’s at the tip of my tongue too! I can’t remember the name of Peter’s gf.
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OMG I remember now! It’s CAITLIN!!!!!!!
Ok some people need to re-watch episode 2. daphne herself says that hiro can’t be dead cuz future ando killed him. they stuck to their theory and found him. obviously the future now in the heroes world is different than the exposed one in volume three, but we don’t know how much different the future has changed other than the exception of x characters wont be in it cuz they’re dead.
i dont think its the second one concidering they did that with hiro and ando and the “magic blood” thing is starting to become a cliche (if i spelled that right
) and basicly all the options has been used at least once this season sooo…… im thinking it will probaly ( i know my spelling is teribble:D) be something they either havent done or something we havent guesed.
The problem I’m having at the moment is, the show Heroes is abit far fetched we know. Still the best Tv show ever, but some of the reasons why people think Daphne is alive is beyond common sense. The most likely out is
A. Dead, never to return
B. Alive, got shot twice and survived. No extra powers, no tricks just good old human healing.
The next thing is. Many people are saying Molly doesn’t have her powers anymore. Well technically she does. It was a deleted scene which I never saw on TV, which means it never happened. Same as Kaito’s power in a deleted scene in Series 2. Happened but not in the TV shows timeline. Therefore if it wasnt televised, then it never happened. Unless its on Heroes Wiki or something stating she has no powers, then my apologies to all concerned.
When anyone dies, Sylar seems to get the powers and he is not a speedster as far as I know.
@ Scottland
I’m sorry mate, but how long have you been following Heroes? Sylar usually takes the powers of posthumans by studying their brains (which kills them), so yes, he has powers from people that are now dead (apart from Claire, obviously).
But what you’re saying is that if a character dies – no matter where they are – then ABRACADABRA! Sylar (magically) now has their power?
Words fail me.
@ Matt
With regards to Molly, I saw the info about Arthur stealing her powers etc. on this very site, and I have also come across some questions put to Aron Coliete and Joe Pokaski (and their answers) on the following site:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19804
The question:
“When Hiro goes back and takes the catalyst upon himself, Arthur shows up shortly after and takes the catalyst from him, as well as his powers. My question is this: how on earth did Arthur know that Hiro and Claire had gone back in time, and that they were where and when they were? Is Arthur omniscient?”
The answer:
“This is actually something that we can tell you is going to be on the DVD. There was a scene where Arthur found Molly and stole her ability, using it to find Hiro and Claire in the past. However, the scene just seemed overwhelmingly, what’s the word? Disturbing. ”
I would think that if the scene is gonna be on the DVD, it is likely to be a part of the storyline; from the sounds of it, this event has actually happened, but just wasn’t included in the TV version because it was too ‘disturbing’. Let’s face it – how else could Arthur have found Hiro and Claire in the past? (Even though I thought it was a bit far-fetched at first.)
I know what you mean though, about it ‘never happened’ if it wasn’t shown… I used to think the same thing, like with Arthur Petrelli’s funeral/ cremation. I never saw or recalled hearing about any such thing until they showed it in Villains, so up until that point I refused to believe Arthur was dead (I never believed it anyway from the start, even back in season 1, but that’s another story). My point is, one of the things to back up my thinking was that “we didn’t see a funeral for Arthur”. Of course, they showed it in this season… and of course, it was false proof coz Arthur was always alive (although not quite kicking).
Basically, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence… in other words, not seeing proof of an event occurring DOES NOT prove that the event didn’t occur.
By the same way of thinking, Kaito’s power wasn’t shown on TV, but it doesn’t mean he didn’t have one, or that it wasn’t Accelerated Probability.
My theory is that Daphne was just badly wounded and not dead and that Matt was too freaked out that he missed something when he was checking for Daphne’s pulse. I think she was revived by Nathan’s team and is in a holding cell.
OMG WHY DONT YOU DUMBASSES GET THAT THE FUTURE HAS CHANGED!
ando cant kill hiro for the forumla cause the formula was destroyed already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
i also read about arthur stealing molly’s power.
it would make sense.
i doubt he is that good of a guesser that he just knew where hiro and claire would be.
you know who i want to know if he has a power or not?
charles deveaux.
i just wanted to change topic.
i’m sick of hearing about the exposed future or blood splatters.
sk74 – using your same logic, one could argue the opposite – since it wasn’t shown on TV, it never happened, therefore, Molly still has her powers…although, I would still like to know how Arthur found Claire and Hiro.
Daphne is dead. She was written off. She was shot several times. Her body was left. Why would Matt leave her behind to get captured? That makes absolutely no sense after they all escaped and she came along to rescue him. And what makes the show have a sense of realism is that you never know who is going to live or die. Real life works that way. All new characters that came into the fold for the second season are no longer on the roster remember? Three are dead, one no longer has her power and the mimic is just no longer has a place in the story. And don’t forget Micah lost both of his parents so he no longer has a purpose in the show.
–unless they brought Micah back as ‘Rebel’. That is plausible since he can communicate with computers.
Caitlin COULD be REBEL, since she was in the Irish underground with her brother, and knows rebellion. Or it could be Claire’s real mother; I know she was burned up, but then, fire is her element! Or maybe Barbara, Ali Larter’s final incantation? I STILL think Daphne was shot with tranquilizers. I am looking forward to the “expose’” of Noah Bennet. I’m just sorry that El seems to have really been destroyed.
Rex
the rebel is me hahaha but the question is who am i?
Ok, on the topic of the future, we all remember in season one where Hiro goes back in time to save Charlie from Sylar. He technically did save her from Sylar, but she died anyway. The lesson was that space-time is self correcting, and you can’t change everything in the past just because you want to. The same rule should apply to the future and present. Yes, events have unfolded differently from the exposed future, but it is likely that Gabriel will still have a child named Noah, Hiro will still get zapped by Ando, and Peter will still get his weird scar. They will just happen under different circumstances.
And as for Daphne, from what I could see, she only got shot once, in the shoulder. My old history teacher was a Vietnam vet who got shot nine times (not in the shoulder either) and survived without powers (although I did suspect he might have been a mind reader…). The only bad thing that happened to Daphne is she was wounded, and her friends are idiots.
Amen Kadan – we must have had the same history teacher….?
Why do people keeping saying that Daphne will survive because in the future she gets killed by Sylar’s explosion. That was an alternate future dumasses. That isn’t going to happen.
For example, in that future she was working for pinehearst, and we all know pinehearst is destroyed. Also Knox was in that future, and he’s dead now.
Just like the bomb in new york or the shanti virus killing 93% of the world population, it never happened. They are called alternate futures. Christ.
I think Daphne is alive, Nathan just said 1 prisoner because they do that on purpose to make the audience think that she’s dead. What fun would it be if we knew that she was not dead? Its just to make the show interesting and suspenseful.
What the hell was Matt and Mohinder supposed to do, they had to run or they would get shot too, maybe in the head, thereby killing them.
Matt can only control 1 mind at a time btw and there was a bunch of them there, including the Hunter who sneaked behind the SWAT guys.